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We are going to continue our program.

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We have a very valuable guest.

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Prof. Hushank Amirahmadi.

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He is a professor at Rutgers University.

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He is a professor at Oxford University.

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He is a professor at Oxford University.

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He is a professor at America-Iran Konsey Başkanı.

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He is a professor at Erlen Hocam.

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Yes, maşallah.

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You are welcome.

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You are honored. You are very welcome.

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Thank you. Thank you for the invitation.

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I am very pleased and honored to be in this great place.

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To be in this great place called Istanbul.

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And in this great place with you Mr. Adnan, Akhtar, the big philosopher.

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Thank you.

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Hushank Bey,

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İran Cumhurbaşkanlığı seçimlerine katılmıştı.

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İnşaAllah yine katılacak.

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İran Cumhurbaşkanı olmasını bekliyoruz inşaAllah.

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İnşaAllah.

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Anlaşıl Cowboy Canis'in çok değerli, sesgin bir insan.

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Amerika'da geniş çevresi olan,

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herkesin tanıdığı,

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değerli bir siyasetçi aynı zamanda

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hem bilim adamı hem değerli bir siyasetçi

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kıymetli fikirlerini istifade etmek istiyoruz.

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Ben bir soru sorayım da sohbeti başlatalım.

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Yes, I want the whole Muslim world to unite.

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Of course, Egypt, Iran, Turkey and Pakistan are great Muslim nations.

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I think we should also try to get a country like Indonesia, one of the major Islamic world.

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They have more Muslims there.

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I think even in Saudi Arabia we had great and Arab world is very important.

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I think Muslims anywhere in the world have to unite.

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I think Turkey has taken a major leap forward in bringing the Muslim world together.

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I am very happy to see that the government and the people of Turkey are giving a great service to Islam.

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I am very pleased for that.

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It is a good Islam that they are developing.

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Unfortunately, there is a lot of bad talk about Islam.

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Islam is a great religion but a lot of bigots out there are trying to give Islam a bad name.

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We have to fight that bigotry, racism, fascism and everything else and make sure that the human being stays as brothers all over and sisters all over.

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We have all one common essence.

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Iranian poet Saadi says

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It means when the human race is a member of the same family.

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And when one member of this family is in trouble, is in pain, there cannot be any member in peace or in good health because we are all connected.

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Maşallah, maşallah.

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Fakat omurga bir öğle başlamasında fayda var herhalde.

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İlk bir Türkiye, İran, Pakistan, Mısır olduktan sonra arkası gelir inşaAllah.

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İnşaAllah sizler gibi böyle aydın, kaliteli, insan sevgisiyle dolu, İslam'ın özünü savunan, aslı saadet Müslümanlığını savunan, sevgiyi, muhabbeti dünyaya yaymaya gayret eden, Hristiyanlara, Musevilere de şefkatle bakan, onları da bu birlik içerisinde koruyup kollamaya amaçlayan bir ruh içerisinde olduğumuzu biliyoruz.

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Bu konudaki fikirlerinizi de alırsak ihya oluruz, giy olur diye düşünüyorum.

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I agree with what he says.

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I think Mr. Akhtar has a great idea because I think the union of Islamic world is a major step forward for our progress.

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I think his idea that Iran, Turkey, Pakistan and Egypt of course are great Islamic nations and they represent different parts of the world.

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Obviously Egypt represents the Arab world and Iran the Persian world and Turks the Turkish world.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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And I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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I mean so we union with that thing that you have in the Pakistanis you have all the Indians and others who are Muslims.

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Tabi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi.

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Son hepsi so this every Muslim is represented because they are a little bit different but if you bring

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that package also in there in there every sort of like every Muslim is represented.

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Again, it's a great idea.

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I think, again, we need to work together.

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I have always said that Muslims have not only to work within themselves,

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but they have also to work with other non-Muslim countries,

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from Jewish to Christian countries.

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And these are all God's religions.

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Even the religions that are not supposedly God's religion, Buddhism, all of this,

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they are all human beings.

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The human race has one common denominator.

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And that essence is very important.

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Ama tabii, insancı, makul insanların lideri olması çok önemli.

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Mesela sizler gibi, kabili hitap, konuşulabilen, insani yaklaşımı olan, merhametli,

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Peygamberimize samimi sevgisi olan, kadın düşmanlığına karşı, yobazların kadın düşmanlığına karşı,

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Kur'an'ın sevecen yaklaşımını savunan, makul, mantıklı, akıllı insanlara ihtiyaç var.

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İnşaAllah sizler de bu konuda vesile olursunuz, önce olursunuz, Mehdi'ye hep beraber talebe oluruz inşaAllah.

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İnşaAllah.

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İnşaAllah.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That's very nice of you.

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Thank you.

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Doktor Hocam.

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Buyur Hocam.

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Efendim, hocamıza sen neler sormak istersin, neler söylersin?

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Hocamız, Mehdiyet konusunda çok maşallah inançlı, biraz önce de konuşmuştuk, şahıs olarak geldiğini inşaAllah.

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Bu çok önemli konu dedi, bundan daha önemli bir konu da bilmiyorum dedi inşaAllah.

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Yani en önemli konunun bu olduğunu söyledi, Mehdiyet'in.

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İnşaAllah.

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Çünkü Şiiler, Vahabiler, Sünniler birleşmezse, İslam birliğinin bir anlamı olmaz.

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Yani Sünniler kendi arasında birleşirse, bu İslam birliği değildir.

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Şiiler birleşirse, birlik değildir.

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Vahabiler birleşirse, birlik değildir.

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Hepsi birleştiğinde bir birlik olabilir.

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Ama bu birlik içinde, Müslümanlar, Mehdiyet'in dışında kimsenin etrafında toplanmazlar.

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Yani hiçbir lideri kabul etmezler.

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Yani 100 yıldan beri kabul etmemiştir, bunu sonra kabul etmezler.

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Ama Mehdi'yi kabul ederler.

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Çünkü Mehdi, merhametli olacak.

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Şefkatli olacak.

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Sevecen olacak.

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Fakirleri koruyacak.

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Adaletli olacak.

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Peygamberimizi çok sevecek.

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Onun soyundan olacak.

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Efendim, modern bilimin, demokrasinin imkanlarını en iyi şekilde hayata geçirecek.

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Hıristiyanları, Musi Vileri, onları da kurtarmaya çalışacak.

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Onlara da şefkat gösterecek.

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Budistlere, onlara da şefkat gözüyle bakacak.

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Onları da kurtarmaya çalışacak.

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Herkese insancıl, herkese iyi davranacak.

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Ateistlere bile güzel davranacak, iyi davranacak.

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Onları da maddi manevi koruma altına alacak.

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Dolayısıyla böyle bir lideri bütün dünya kabul eder.

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Ama birisi çıkarsa ben Sünni'yim, bütün Şiiler bana bağlansın.

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Efendim, Vahabiler bana bağlansın.

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Bunu kimse kabul etmez.

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Bir Şi çıkarsa, Vahabiler, Sünniler bana bağlansın.

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Bunu da kimse kabul etmez.

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Ama Mehdi çıkarsa, Mehdi bütün mezhepleri kaldırıyor.

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Peygamberimin hadisi var.

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Açık.

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Hiçbir mezhep kalmıyor o zamanında.

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Sahabe dönemi gibi.

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O zaman herkes bağlanır Mehdi'ye.

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Ama bütün mesele tabii Mehdi'le ittifak etmekte.

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Evet, bu kişi hakikaten bu görevi yerine getirecek güçte, vicdanda, akılda, samimiyette.

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Hakikaten Allah'ın izniyle bu birlik, bu kişinin liderliği altında çok güzel sonuçlanır demelere lazım.

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Bunun için de Müslümanların bir Mehdi özlemi, Mehdi arayışı içerisinde olmaları gerekiyor.

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Sizin de Mehdi sevginiz çok güzel.

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Dün de bir Şii delikanlı vardı, yakışıklı bir şey.

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Onunla konuştuk.

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Bir Şii diyor zaten Mehdi için yaşar diyor.

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Maşallah.

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Yani Allah rızası için, Allah rızası için Mehdi için yaşar diyor.

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Başka da bir hayatın kayesi yoktur diyor.

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Maşallah.

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Maşallah.

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Evet, very good.

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Very well said.

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I think we need to have this discussion at three levels.

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One level is very general.

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The God created human race, all of us, whether Christian, Muslim, Jews, doesn't matter.

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Whether black, white, you know, Hispanic, we are all God's people.

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At that general level, there is no difference.

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And that there is an essence of humanity is the same.

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And that essence has certain rights.

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We call them human rights.

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That human rights have to be protected.

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And then at the second level, the God, depending on the regions of the world,

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and over time, created, sent prophets and said,

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tell my people, don't do this and do that.

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At that level, we are talking about spirituality and religion below the God.

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And that's below the human being.

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The human being is immediately after God.

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And then comes religion.

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God first created human being, then created religion.

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And it created different religion.

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So we have, but here, the fact that we have different religion, we are diverse,

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it doesn't mean that we are different in front of the gods or in our essence.

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The essence is the same.

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But what is different now is that religion that God in different situation have given us,

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different time.

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So God created Christian, Muslim, Jews, and so on and so forth,

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and it gave them that religion.

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At second, that's the second level of analysis, generality.

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Here, the most important thing is to respect diversity.

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Just simply because I am Muslim and he is a Jew does not make me or him anything different in front of the god.

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And as human beings, we are all the same human being.

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Now I have my Islam and he has his Judaism.

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But we have to respect that diversity.

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Now that diversity comes, again, at the third level of analysis.

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And that's that within Jews, you have Hasidic Jews, you have Reformed Jews, you have all kinds of Jews.

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In Islam, you have all kinds of Sunni, Shia, within Shia, you have so many different sects.

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And in Sunni, the same, in Christianity, God knows how many churches exist, very diverse.

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Again, that does not mean that this church has to be against the other church,

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or this mosque has to be against the other one.

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And the same thing with the thing.

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So this is another level of diversity that has to be also respected.

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That's why, because above this diversity was the first level of diversity.

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And then above that first level of diversity, you have the essence of human being,

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the commonality in the front of God.

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So when you look at it, God says, I created all equal.

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I gave you different religion.

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And then within the religion, you, depending on where you were, what kind of environment you lived in,

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you decided to be a Hanabi, a Shafi, a Maliki, or a Wahhabi, or whatever.

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But that doesn't mean that you have to fight each other.

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You have just to respect each other, given that, because you live in different societies.

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This is very important to understand, because religion, at the end of the day,

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is part of our real world.

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That is, as I always say, there is Islam, there is Muslim,

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and then there is the Islamic community.

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Communities.

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Islam is one, and then Muslims are very different,

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from Indonesian, to Iranian, to Turks, to Indians.

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And then, of course, when you are different people,

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and live in different environments, from Saudi Arabia, Iran, here,

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then you develop different ideas within Islam.

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So you become Hanabi, Maliki, I don't know, Asna, Sharia, I don't know what.

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So this and then, this level doesn't tell you that we are so different.

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Again, as you look at it, we suffer with the God, the commonality,

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the first level of diversity, the next level of diversity,

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until we come to the real life, that all of us,

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I am here, sitting here,

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I am a Muslim, Shia, Iranian, speaks Persian,

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I am a real person, I am not an abstract.

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So you cannot just judge me on the basis of what you have in mind.

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No, look at me, see me, believe in my reality,

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respect my reality, I respect your reality,

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and then we live together.

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And that's what the Muslims have particularly to learn,

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that we are at a different level,

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from the all the way, from the general,

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the commonality, down to the specificity.

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We really have to understand that,

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that level of analysis.

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Maşallah.

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Bir süre sonra zaten

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Mehdi'nin mezhebi hakim olacak diyor Peygamberimiz Sallallahu ve Selam.

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İnşaAllah.

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Yani aslı saadet gibi.

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İnşaAllah.

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Aylık aylık almıyor.

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Son devirdeyiz artık.

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İnşaAllah.

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Dünyanın en son devirlerindeyiz.

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İnşaAllah.

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Dünyanın altın çağa girmesi

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olayı oluştu.

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O çağa girdik.

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2012'den itibaren girdik artık.

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Efendim, sizin gibi değerli insanlar,

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efendim, dünyanın birçok yerinden

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güzel huylu, demokrat, akılcı,

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Allah korkusunu samimi olarak yaşayan,

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Allah'ı candan seven insanlar,

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dünyanın neresinde olsa olsun

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bir araya gelmeye başladılar.

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Birbirlerini bulmaya başladılar.

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Ayette diyor Cenab-ı Allah,

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şeytana Allah'a sınırım.

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Allah size diyor,

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nerede olursanız olsun

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bir araya getirir diyor.

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Bu ayet tahakkuk ediyor.

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İnşaAllah çok güzel olacak.

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Hayırlar olacak.

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Bereket olacak.

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Sevgiyi savunanlar,

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dostluğu savunanlar,

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kardeşliği savunanlar,

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barışı savunanlar,

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dünyaya hakim olacaklar.

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İnşaAllah.

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İnşaAllah.

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İlminden, irfanından

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daha da çok istifade etmek isteriz.

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Fakat bugün biraz vaktimiz

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dar olduğu için bu kadar oldu.

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Ama inşaAllah,

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bir dahaki geldiğinde

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daha geniş,

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daha şumullü,

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daha detaylı

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ilminden, irfanından

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hocamızın istifade ederiz.

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Biz biliyoruz ki o

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çok büyük bir alep.

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Maşallah.

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Ufku, geniş,

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kültürlü bir insan.

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Son olarak söylemek

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istediği bir şey varsa

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onları alalım.

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İzlediğiniz için teşekkür ederim.

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Well, thank you.

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I wanted to thank him

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for this opportunity.

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I wanted to say

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that Muslim,

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Islam is the

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religion of peace.

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You know,

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the one big problem

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we have is that

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unfortunately,

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the bigots

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are very organized.

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They have a lot of money.

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They have a lot of

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associations.

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They have newspapers.

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They have TVs.

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You know,

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they have money,

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millions.

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They have an army

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of people

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who are there

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trying to put down

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Islam,

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to make Islam

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look bad,

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to make Islam

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look like terrorists.

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And unfortunately,

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within that army

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of bigots,

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a lot of Muslims

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also are there.

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It's not just

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the Christians

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or the Jews

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or, you know,

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the others.

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They are also

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Muslims.

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So,

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it's just

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they are,

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the enemy

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sometimes is within.

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as opposed to

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just without.

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You know,

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when you have

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an enemy

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without,

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you can easily

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handle it.

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But when the enemy

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is within,

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it's very tough.

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So,

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we really,

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we have a big job

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ahead of us.

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You know,

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as I said,

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we cannot take this

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lightly.

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It's not just like,

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you know,

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Mr.

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Octor has put this

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together,

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trying to fight

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bigotry,

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racism,

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fascism,

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and work for peace,

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for equality,

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harmony,

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justice,

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and that's great.

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But, you know,

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it's not enough

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because the enemy,

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the bigots,

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the guys who do

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exactly the opposite

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of what you are doing,

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they are too many.

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They have too much

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resources.

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You know,

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they have too many,

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you know,

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places that they are

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organized and working

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hard.

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So,

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we need to do

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more work,

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get better organized,

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do better fundraising,

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put more TV stations,

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more people,

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bring more people to talk,

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and that's the way to go.

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And, again,

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at the bottom,

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we are not fighting anybody,

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neither Muslim,

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Christians,

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or others.

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We are doing this

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to make them understand,

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understand that Islam

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is the religion of peace

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and harmony,

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and that if there are

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a bunch of bigots

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that use Islam

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or abuse Islam,

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it has nothing to do

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with religion.

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It's the same thing

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with Christianity

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or Judaism.

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I always tell

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in my speeches

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about Islam,

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say,

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okay,

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the people who are

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listening to me,

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was Stalin a Muslim?

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Oh, no,

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okay,

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you see?

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So,

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you can have a non-Muslim

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that could be a killer.

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Okay,

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was Hitler a Muslim?

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Of course not.

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Or they created

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fascism and so on.

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Yeah,

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we have a few other,

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you know,

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Muslim guys

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who have done wrong things,

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but thanks God,

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we never had in Islam

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people like Hitler

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and Stalin.

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I'm very proud

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of that religion

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that did not produce

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people like Hitler,

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people like Stalin,

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and others.

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So,

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again,

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we are very proud

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of our religion.

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Again,

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just like in any,

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in any religion,

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any religion

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has people

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that the Muslim,

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that they are

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very proud of,

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and there are other people

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that they are ashamed of.

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We have also people

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that we are ashamed of,

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but we have also people

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that we are proud of.

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The same way

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Christians and Jews

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and others

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have people

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who they should be ashamed of,

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and they should also

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have a lot of people

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that they should be

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very proud of.

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So,

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again,

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it's not just a matter

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of this or that person.

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It's just,

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again,

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the essence of humanity

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and this common ground

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and the fact

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that these diversities

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that exist

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between,

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across religions,

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across faith,

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across sects,

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they have to be respected

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and be respectful

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and we should not use

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individual actions

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to put down religions.

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İnşaAllah.

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Çok teşekkür ederim.

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Çok memnun oldum.

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Thank you.

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Bir dahaki sefer

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geniş bir ekiple

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inşaAllah sizleri bekliyoruz.

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Thank you.

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Saygılar,

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sevgiler,

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hürmetler.

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Thank you.