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My name is Oktar Badluna. Shalom to all our viewers and hello. I'm a neurosurgeon, brain surgeon, and I represent Mr. Adnan Oktar, who is a Muslim author, has more than 320 books in 73 languages, 1,000 websites, and a team.

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He's a TV channel, A9 TV, and he does TV programs every day. So we are a voluntary organization. And Mr. Adnan Oktar has been struggling since 35 years intellectually to spread the truth of monotheistic religions. What I mean by that, we believe in the same God. These are Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

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We believe in the same God. We love the same prophets. So this is more than a dialogue what he means by that. Actually, he has a book about this, a call for unity.

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And the hatred and empathy. Actually, according to the Islam, Jews are regarded as people of the book. And there must be a love, great love, against Jews and compassion, against Christians.

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Even unbelievers, even unbelievers, if they ask for the protection, God says to the Muslims in the Quran, that they have to be protected. Bring them to a secure place, even though you risk your own life.

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So the cause of this empathy and hatred is radicalism, which is based on superstitions, not from the Quran. In the Quran, there is a compassion, mercy, love, respect against Jews, which are the people of the book, and against the Christians.

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Muslims are even allowed to marry them. The Prophet Muhammad had a Jewish wife. And usually these radicals never talk about this.

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So Mr. Abdullah Oktar does an intellectual struggle to spread these views in the Islamic world because the radicalism and fanaticism, nobody is born fanatic, of course.

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They learn this in the families, in the mosques, in the religious schools. So we have to do a counter-education intellectually through the books, websites, TV programs, to educate these people what real Islam, what God says in the Quran.

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So in that way we can live in peace and security. And in fact, Mr. Adanav is the first to reflect these views actually from the Quran.

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There are four verses in the Quran which says, God says, I settled the children of Israel in the Holy Land. Holy Land is Israel as you know.

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And God says, they will be there until the hereafter. Four verses. So children of Israel, Israel has the right to live as an independent state until the last day. Together with Christians and Muslims all in peace.

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So what needs to be done is, we have to do an education intellectually, change the views of these radicals views with a counter-education and in that way there will be peace.

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And let's collide together, Jews, Christians and Muslims.

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Mr. Adanav does TV programs together with the Jewish politicians from Israel many times.

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And many rabbis, including for example Rabbi Lau, he is a very respected rabbi all over the world.

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And many other rabbis, Sun-Hidden rabbis came to his TV shows many times.

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So he gives messages together, friendly with the rabbis and Jewish people and politicians, very peaceful messages.

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When there was a tension after the Marmara incident between Turkey and Israel, Mr. Adanav played a very important role to mediate between Israel and Turkey.

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Actually the problem was among the politicians. It was, Turkish nation has a great love against the Jews.

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As you might remember, in the time of the Ottoman Empire in 1492, Sultan Bayezid sent his ships and brought our Jewish brothers and sisters with his ships to Turkey and believed in peace for a very long time.

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This is what real Islam tells us actually.

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So right after the Marmara incident, Mr. Adanav sent me and another friend of mine to Israel.

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And he sent the message that Israel can do an apology, this will not humiliate Israel, actually made it bigger.

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And to pay for a compensation, the compensation is stated and we sent this message also, brought this message to Israel, exists in Judaism.

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Everybody agreed with that. We had a meeting with Mr. Rivlin, who was the president right now.

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We had a meeting with the party members, with the minister of internal affairs. At that time, Yishair was the minister of internal affairs.

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Chief Rabbi Amar, we had a meeting. And we had a meeting with the liquid members, party members and other parlaments.

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Everybody agreed. It has taken some time. So he brought the politicians to Turkey with TV programs about this issue.

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So finally, the problem is being solved. Israel is a very close ally of Turkey.

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Turkey needs Israel in the region and Israel needs Turkey against radicalism, terrorism and violence.

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Our brothers and sisters live in Israel actually. Turkish nation has a great love against Jews.

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So we want them to come to Turkey freely and settle wherever they would like to live together.

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Inshallah, that's our aim. And Israel is under the protection of God.

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And Turkey will definitely help. Mr. Erdogan said, if anybody has any bad thoughts about Israel, as you know, there were statements in the Middle East against, for example, eradicating Israel from the map.

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He said, we will bring the dome down to their head. We will never allow something like this.

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There was a fire actually in Israel, as you might remember. Mr. Erdogan sent the airplanes, the fire extinguishers immediately.

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So we love Israel. Israel is our national ally and our brother-sister country of Turkey.

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Let's do, come together, Turkey, Israel and other countries, Russia also, against terrorism, radicalism in the region and solve these problems.

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Turkey wants to be part of Europe. Of course, Mr. Erdogan always tells in his TV programs, the quality, which is actually unfortunate, the level of quality in the Middle East is low.

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Turkey is better in terms of that, but still, in the terms of arts, aesthetics, science, we have to increase the quality.

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We applied to the European Union in 1959, actually, at the very beginning. It wasn't the European Union at that time. It was the Economic Union, actually.

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And since 58 years, Turkey is waiting to be accepted to the European Union. But the thing is, of course, although the majority is not like this in Turkey, but there are some radical people exist in Turkey also.

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They have radical views. They are against arts, some Orthodox Muslims. They are against science, arts, aesthetics and the values of the Europe.

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So, if you are against their dance, their music, their, for example, the women deep cut dresses, they have makeup here, very elegantly dressed and also arts and science and aesthetics.

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And if you are against their values, why should they take you then? But in fact, in the subconscious mind of these people, although they are radical, they are Orthodox and they say they believe in that,

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they say they believe in that, these people sent their children for education to Italy, to United Kingdom, to United States, to Germany.

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Why don't you send your children to Yemen or other countries, Pakistan, Afghanistan? You know what I'm saying? In the subconscious mind, they admire the values of the Europe, actually.

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So, you want to be part of the Europe. We did not move away from the West, we did not. But Turkey has also good relations with Russia and neighboring countries,

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this is the policy of Turkey. Israel is very important for Turkey, of course. And we want to have good relations with everybody. And we want to be part of the European Union.

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But we have to increase the quality in Turkey. Mr. Adnan Oktar recommends the government and the other people all the time.

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Actually, he said there should be a ministry of equality in Turkey, in which we see terrible statues in Turkey and there are some people against art.

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We have to educate these people, of course, because according to the Koran, Islam, there is nothing against science, arts or aesthetics.

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Actually, God recommends to study science. So, in that way, we can see the evidences of the creation. And the arts is a blessing of God, of course.

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And in that way, we can be part of the European Union. Of course, we want to measure democracy in Turkey.

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Turkey is a very democratic country in terms of the best in the Middle East, actually, in terms of among the Muslim countries.

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And there is secularism in Turkey. And everybody has the freedom of worship and freedom of thought in Turkey. But we want to better, of course. Of course, there are some effects, but we want to better that.

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Mr. Adnan Oktar was asked this question many times. First, he says anti-Semitism is haram. Haram means unlawful.

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I mean, according to Koran, you cannot be anti-Semitic. It's definitely unlawful, God says. So, he was never anti-Semitic.

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In the book of the Freemasonry and Judaism, if you read this book, he mentions in this book not the religious Jews or religious people.

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He criticizes the unbeliever aspect, unbeliever activities of the Freemasonry and some Jews. Of course, there are some Muslims, for example.

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They call themselves Muslims. But they support atheistic philosophies and they are not believers. And these people are also criticized in the Koran, as you know.

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So, it's not only peculiar to Jews. So, by that, although the title says Jews, but it's not Judaism. It's not the Jews, religious or good people.

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Only whenever they, for example, act in a terrorist way or against the laws. And these people are criticized in Torah also. Right?

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I mean, God says, God will give trouble if they stay away from religion for the Jews. God warns the Jews. God warns the Muslims also. God warns the Christians also in the same way.

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So, the second book, the Holocaust lie, does not belong to Mr. Adanoktar. Another person he knows, his name is Nuri actually, and Mr. Adanoktar sent a notification through the notary and stopped the publication of this book.

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He used the pen named Harun Yahya in his book. He used a similar cover. And he stopped the publication and he published another book actually, Holocaust violence.

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Of course Holocaust happened. Everybody knows that. There are thousands and thousands of documents about that. Hitler slaughtered six million Jews that time.

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I've been to the Holocaust Museum in Israel actually. I've seen the documentaries. It is terrible. Even one Jew, innocent Jew, was killed. This is a terrible thing.

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Six million is a big Holocaust happened at that time. And he published a book and he has a website about this also.

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Mr. Adanoktar, of course, against this. It is haram according to the Quran. You cannot do that. So, second book does not belong to him. His book is Holocaust violence.

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In this book, he explains all the documents about the Holocaust and he denounces that, which is against Islam. And he stopped the publication of the other book.

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Jews are, again, the people of the book, according to the Quran, and very religious people. And Mr. Adanoktar says, the reason why many countries in the Middle East, Muslim countries, became more religious is because of Israel.

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They saw the Jews. They are being very, very religious. I mean, very nice. By seeing Jews so religious, they became religious after that. So, Israel actually, Mr. Adanoktar says, became a very good example for the Islamic world in terms of that.

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Christians also called people of the book, according to the Quran. And they have to be treated, that says, with love, respect, and compassion. So, we can socialize with Christians and Jews.

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And the Muslim men are allowed to marry Jewish and Christian wives. And, in fact, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, had both a Jewish wife and a Christian wife.

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And radicals, extremes, they never talk about this, actually. And also, there was a constitution at the time of our Prophet Muhammad. It's called Medina Constitution. It's one of the first constitutions in the world.

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And the Muslims, according to, which is prepared by the Prophet, Muslims, Christians, and Jews, had the same rights, equal rights, with the unbelievers.

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So, they were under the protection, everything, their security, under the protection of Muslims. They had equal rights. This is the way Islam wants, actually.

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Even the unbelievers have equal rights, of course. Democracy is in the essence of the Quran, actually. There's no compulsion in religion, God says.

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So, we will live together and in peace until the last day. Israel will definitely exist as an independent state, have the right given by God, actually.

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So, every Muslim has to accept this and respect that, and together with Christians and Muslims, of course.

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Okay.

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Mr. Adel Oktar has a book about this, actually. This is the Italian version. His books are in 73 languages.

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Islam denounces terrorism. In that book, he gives very powerful evidence from the Quran, why you cannot kill innocent civilians.

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As you know, the definition of terrorism is, violence committed against non-military targets, against civilians, for political purposes.

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Only if you ask the terrorists, why do you kill these people? Because they say they are others.

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So, there is no justification for terrorism or killing innocent people in the Quran. In fact, God says, killing one innocent person, one innocent person is like murdering entire humanity.

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This is the same in Judaism, actually. That was revealed to Prophet Moses also. So, suicide is unknowful. God says, do not kill yourselves in the Quran.

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But these people learn these superstitions that are, I told you, fabricated hadith. Hadith means saying of the Prophet.

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So, they say, there are published books, and these books are published in the entire Islamic world, the sayings of the Prophet.

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And the sayings of the Prophet in these books are full of violence, which is against Islam.

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The Prophet never said these things, because they were generated 250 years after the Prophet passed away.

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And God says in the Quran, the Quran is sufficient, we did not omit anything in the Quran, and killing innocent people is definitely Aram.

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So, terrorism is, of course, because they, for example, they go into a shopping mall, and they bomb this shopping mall.

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What happens in the September 11 attack, there were innocent Jews, innocent Muslims, and innocent Christians, and innocent unbelievers died in the September 11 attack,

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or any terrorist attack, or any terrorist attack. So, it is endless torment, God says in the Quran. You cannot do that.

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But they say, full of violence, I told you, the superstitions, and there are penalties, for example.

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Who doesn't pray, they say. Who doesn't fast, who drinks alcohol. There is no such thing in the Quran.

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So, what needs to be done is, we have to educate these people, because if they are educated for radicalism,

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in the families, in the schools, all over the Islamic world. So, we have to do a counter-education based on the Quran.

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And this book does that, actually. In this book, Mr. Adhan Oktar gives the evidences why their beliefs,

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which is based on the Hadith, is wrong, with the Quranic evidences. You cannot do that.

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So, military solutions are another solution. Bombing these people, killing the radicals, civilians suffer mostly from that.

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Many innocent people are being killed. And, of course, it generates more hatred, violence generates more violence.

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It's like in this vicious cycle, and we have seen this. For example, United States was in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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Seven trillion dollars were spent. Three million people were killed. There are casualties from United States also.

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So, what happens, Taliban is very powerful, still very powerful, Al-Qaeda is still there, and ISIS has emerged.

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So, militarily, you cannot solve this problem. Actually, it increases, it feeds terrorism, because if you bomb and invade a country,

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and these two countries are destroyed, of course. So, what happens is, it generates more hatred, and they find more radicals, more terrorists, actually.

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What needs to be done is a counter-education, educating the entire Islamic world.

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So, we can remove the source of radicalism and violence by removing this bigotry and superstitions.

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So, this is the only solution. There is no other solution, but we need to align that.

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Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even unbelievers through media, media campaigns, websites, books, this is the only way.

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Imagine what would happen with the seven trillion dollars. Seven trillion dollars, if United States would publish books,

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open websites and TV campaigns, this would be eradicated completely from the world.

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And their ex-soldiers from Afghanistan, there are 50,000 homeless people, 600,000 homeless people, 50,000 of them are ex-American soldiers.

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So, by killing these people, they became, they had psychiatric problems, they became addicted to narcotics,

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and every 12 minutes, an ex-American soldier from Iraq and Afghanistan kills himself.

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So, everybody suffers from violence and terror, and stop this altogether, and spend these trillions of dollars,

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which go into the weapon industry, into the industry and welfare of the humanity.

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But we are very hopeful. It is difficult, yes, but it is doable. Peace and security will prevail the world,

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because God will do it. In the next five or ten years, the world will change.

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Peace, security, we will all live in peace, and security will prevail the world, good morality will prevail the world.

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We will see these days.

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God orders science, because science is created by God.

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What are the scientific laws? Scientific laws are the laws of God.

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For example, the law of gravity, the law of thermodynamics. Why?

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Because there is a harmony and organization in the nature, and humans, looking at this, generate science.

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So, science is created by God, actually.

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By looking at science, by thinking about the scientific evidence from the atoms inside the cell, the protein production,

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we know the existence of God. We see the artistry of God.

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So, science is a must. Every Muslim, every Jew, every Christian, everybody has to study science.

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And by studying science, we see there is an omnipotent intelligence who generates this delicate harmony and organization in the nature.

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And this is a must.

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So, the second thing is, Darwinism is not science.

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Because when we look at the origin of life, the proteins, for example, you know, I'm a medical doctor.

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I'm a scientist, actually.

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And I've given thousands, more than a thousand conferences in all the major universities in the United States, Europe, Israel,

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Tel Aviv, Hebrew University, New York University.

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I've been to Oxford University three times, Cambridge, Imperial College of London, many major universities in the world about these scientific issues.

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So, science tells us, you know, a single cell is more complicated than the largest city of the world.

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There are 10 billion protein molecules, DNA, all the organelles.

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The complete living cell is more complicated than the largest city of the world.

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There are protein molecules inside the cell.

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Even a single protein molecule to exist by chance, by random events, as Darwinism claims, in the nature is impossible.

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Zero, impossible.

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Because proteins can only be produced by enzymes, by other proteins inside the living cell.

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So, living cell must exist first.

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Everybody, all the scientists accept this, actually.

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And then it can produce the protein molecules.

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This is a fatal blow to Darwinism, because they say life originated by chance.

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Science tells us, no, it's impossible.

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It can only be created.

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The living cell must be created, and then it can produce the protein molecules.

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The second thing is, evolution claims, species evolved to other species, randomly and gradually.

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That's what Darwin claimed, actually.

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One species to another one.

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For example, they say, the sea animals, the fish, gradually transformed into land animals over billions,

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a hundred millions of years, randomly, through mutations and through random natural selection.

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So, we have to see these transitions in the fossils.

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Fossils are living, the remnants of the living cells which lived in the past.

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But, when we look, we have 700 million fossils today.

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When we look at the scientific fossils, we see species appear abruptly, complete and perfectly formed.

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That is sudden creation.

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We don't see any transitions.

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And scientifically and logically, it is impossible, because the genetic code is extremely complex.

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There is no mechanism which can transform the genetic code gradually to other genetic codes.

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For example, it is impossible of a gill of a fish, which can live in the water, to be transformed gradually into a lung,

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because any mutation, random change in the DNA, will make this gill dysfunctional and the fish will die.

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Everybody knows that. If you take out the fish out of the water, it dies.

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So, we don't see half fish, half reptile, half reptile, half bird fossils. None of them exist.

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Mr. Adolpter said, I pay 2.5 million euros. Anybody in the world, that was in the world media,

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bring one fossil, which is a transitional form. Nobody can bring it. None of them exist.

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Darwin says actually in his book, he says, there are no transitional forms.

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If there are no transitional forms, means no evolution, of course.

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But life to originate by chance, to living this, is impossibly illogical.

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There must be a creator. For example, this pen has a design. My watch has a design.

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This has a purpose, of course, a glass to drink water. And this book is written by an intelligence.

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And then claiming life doesn't have a purpose and it is a random occurrence. It doesn't make any sense.

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So, that's the reason why we scientifically struggle. But there is another important issue with Darwinism is,

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it has a social impact. If you put the subconscious mind on the people, you are a fighting animal.

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You have to fight for survival. If you are strong, you will survive. If you are weak, you will get eliminated.

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In order to survive, you have to crush the weak individuals. That's what Darwin brought, actually.

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Darwin defends this idea. He got this from Thomas Malthus, actually. It's called social Darwinism.

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Applying into the societies, you are fighting animal survival of the strongest one.

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Then, of course, this inevitably leads to fascism, to communism, and religious ideologies, and violence and conflict.

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Darwin, you know what Hitler said? Hitler was a very powerful Darwinist.

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And he said, take care of the Nordic Germans. Nothing will remain but the dance of the apes.

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So, he was a racist because of Darwinism. He said, Darwin said, this is a biological issue.

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And then he did the Holocaust and he tried to kill the Jews and other races to eliminate from this so-called race.

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Yes.

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Well, Mr. Adnokter is very democratic in that. He says, evolution should be done in this course.

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In a more verbal way. But also, the scientific evidences which refer evolution as fossil evidence, the impossibility of the proteins formed by a chance also should be done in this course.

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So, the students, communism should be done in this course. He believes fascism. He believes also Judaism, Christianity, and Islam should be thought in the schools.

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Everybody should have a broad intelligence. Then they can decide what is right and what is wrong.

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You cannot prohibit any ideologies or any scientific evidences to be thought in the schools. That is wrong.

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So, Darwinism is being thought in the 200 countries as a field state ideology all over the world.

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But the evidences, fossil evidences are being prohibited which falsify Darwinism. That's the problem.

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So, Darwinism should be thought. We don't have any evolution should be thought in the schools.

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But also, scientific evidences which refute evolution should be also thought in the schools. That's what Mr. Adnokter says.

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So, democracy is in the essence of Islam actually. You cannot prohibit any ideas to be thought to the students, to the other people.

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Homosexuality is unlawful. It's haram in the Quran, in Judaism, and in Christianity, in Bible also. It's haram.

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So, of course, Mr. Adnokter never says homosexuals should be beaten or oppressed or tortured. He never said that.

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But, of course, we have the right to spread what God says and we believe what God says and defend it.

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So, the Jews have the right to tell that homosexuality is unlawful according to the Torah and Judaism.

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And the Christians have the right also to tell this also. So, since God says it's unlawful, of course, we are against that.

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That's the reason why we are against homosexuality. But it doesn't mean that we want to go and torture and beat these people.

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I'm not talking about this. But we have the right and we believe in that, strongly believe in that.

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Since God says that homosexuality is unlawful. It's an ugly act, God says in the Quran.

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So, we talk about this. Mr. Adnokter talks about this. He believes in complete democracy, freedom of thought and freedom of worship.

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In fact, freedom of thought and freedom of worship is prohibited all around the world.

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Now, there will be very little days will come. Like this is like painful contractions.

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You know, in a birth, the contractions, the intensity of the contractions increases, increases, increases.

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It is the most painful part is right before the birth. We are getting close to this part.

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And after that, a baby, a new era will come and it is very close by believing that.

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So, we will see this. It is testable. We will see. Futurism will be very good in the world.

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For Muslims, for Christians, for Jews and for everybody, for unbelievers also.

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Let's go.

