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Yes, first of all, welcome here to Jerusalem Al-Quds.

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We welcome you. We welcome our Turkish friends and our Muslim friends.

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We are here. I myself am Israeli.

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I have been a rabbi here for many years, here in Jerusalem, in a community here.

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I come originally from Scandinavia, chief rabbi of Norway.

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But I've been here in Jerusalem for many years.

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I've also been in public office in the Israeli parliament, in the Knesset, in the government as a cabinet minister.

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And what we're doing here, amongst other things, but first and foremost, is that we're working for peace.

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But we're working for peace with a different attitude than what everybody else has been doing.

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I have been involved in the peace process from the very beginning, from before Oslo, the Oslo process.

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And what I saw was that the process was a process which was a secular process,

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which not only was led by secular people, but which had a philosophy that peace has to be together with secularism,

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with making the Middle East non-religious.

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And therefore many religious people felt that they had to choose between their identity, religion.

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It could be either Judaism or Islam or Christianity.

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But the Christians here were not the main problem.

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Judaism on the Israeli side or Islam on the Palestinian side.

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And they were to choose between their identity and peace.

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And therefore they chose their identity.

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They said, we do not want to give up who we are, what we believe in, our tradition,

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the tradition of our parents, in order to have a peace which doesn't look so peaceful also.

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And I saw that there was one attempt after the other, the Oslo attempt, the Camp David, the peace, the road map,

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Condoleezza Rice, Napolis, and so on.

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And I was involved in a lot of these attempts.

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And I saw that both on the Israeli side and on the Palestinian side, these attempts could not succeed

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because the peace tent was too narrow, was too small.

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So I created, together with some Jewish friends, and together with my Muslim friends, we created the religious peace track,

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the religious peace initiative for peace in the Middle East.

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I had a great partner, Sheikh Abdallah Nimr Dawish, blessed be his memory, who passed away a few months ago.

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He created the Islamic movement in the Holy Land.

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He created the Islamic Jihad.

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And he was in prison for terrorism.

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He wasn't a peacenik.

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But he went into the depth of Islam.

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He didn't compromise one word of Islam, of the Koran, of the Hadith.

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He went into depth of Islam.

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And he renounced terrorism.

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And he said, I want to work for peace between Palestine and Israel.

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This is the future for the two peoples here.

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And we worked hand in hand.

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In the beginning, we were very few.

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But in the meantime, more and more people are joining the religious peace track.

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We have centers all over Palestine and all over Israel.

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And we have partners all over the Arab Muslim world.

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Also in Turkey.

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And in Iraq and in Syria and in Jordan and in Egypt and in Morocco and in Tunisia and so on.

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And more and more people are joining.

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Also people from the more radical movements.

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People from Hamas.

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People from Muslim Brotherhood.

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Many people from the radical movements.

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Who say, if this is a religious peace.

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If this, not to exclude anybody from the tent of peace.

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But if we open the tent of peace and make a religious peace track.

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Which comes not out of interests.

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But out of the deep belief.

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That we are here.

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This is the will of Allah.

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This is the will of God.

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That we are here.

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Both peoples.

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We are going to be here in all future.

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And therefore we need to find a way.

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Where we don't destroy and destruct the will of God.

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By killing the image of God in the other.

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And therefore we have to find a model.

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Where Jerusalem Al-Quds.

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Where we are now.

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Becomes the gate to heaven.

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And not a hell here on earth.

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What will be in the coming world.

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If we go to heaven.

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Or we go to hell.

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That is in the hands and the decision of Allah.

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But what will be here on earth.

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It is also.

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God expects this from us.

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That we create something good together.

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For his creatures.

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And if we can build here something together.

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Jews and Muslims and our Christian friends together.

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And we are building that here.

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In this coalition.

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If we can build something.

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Which can save lives.

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Which can give hope and future.

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For the peoples here in the holy land.

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And around us.

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If we can do that.

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Then this will be a message of sanctifying.

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The holy name of God.

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In the eyes of the whole world.

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Not only leaders.

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Not only the top leaders.

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The extreme leaders also.

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But also.

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We have young leaders.

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Who are working together.

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Hundreds of young leaders today.

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Are part today of our coalition.

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It is expanding everyday.

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We are also involved in the processes.

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Mostly now of extinguishing fires.

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To take care that people are not getting killed.

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And the both parties are using us.

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Also the politicians are using us.

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As long as they are using us for good.

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Then we are willing to be used.

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But we want more than that.

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We want to pass away.

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Not instead of the politicians.

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In the end the politicians have to make political agreements.

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But we want to create a legitimization.

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Which was not there.

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During the processes.

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In the 90s and the 2000s.

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And all the meetings.

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To create a legitimization.

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A different atmosphere.

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So that both peoples will restore the belief.

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That peace is possible.

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And that the religions.

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That Judaism and Islam.

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Want to live in peace with each other.

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That this is the ideal.

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That this is what God expects from us.

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That we become junior partners.

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To the will of God.

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We are humble.

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We know that there are a lot of things beyond us.

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But this is what we are ordered to do.

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And that we will be his servants.

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Not by crushing other people.

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And taking away their hopes.

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But by serving.

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By serving him.

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We know that.

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All the land belongs to God.

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And we are temporary residents.

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Here on this.

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On this earth.

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But when we are temporary residents here.

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At least.

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Let's behave.

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In a way which respects.

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The will of God.

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And not which crushes his will.

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The problem is that.

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If you ask people.

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What do their religion preach.

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They will all say.

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The religion preaches peace.

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And tranquility.

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And mercy.

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And compassion.

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And so on.

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But when it comes down.

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Then to the reality.

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We don't really see the other side.

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And we believe.

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That we have.

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That you know.

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I say sometimes in a joke.

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That we believe.

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That if God had all the facts.

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He would be on our side.

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You know.

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It's.

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It's.

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It's not something we joke with.

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But.

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People.

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People.

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Put themselves.

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They put God aside.

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And they.

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Put themselves.

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Instead of God.

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They don't see the other.

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We don't meet each other.

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We only see each other.

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As the big enemy.

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We don't.

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Have a chance.

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This is one of the tragedies.

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Which has happened here.

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Over the last 30 years.

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We don't see the other.

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As a human being.

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As a fellow believer.

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We.

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We don't know.

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Each other anymore.

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We just know.

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The bad things.

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About the other.

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So what we're doing.

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Is.

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That first.

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We work.

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Inside.

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Every religion.

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And then we.

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Put together.

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The big.

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Most influential.

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Leaders.

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From both sides.

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And when they see.

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Each other.

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In the eye.

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And they see.

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The sincerity.

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Of the other side.

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Then they can't say.

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Well.

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You have no right.

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To be here.

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You should be thrown out.

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You should be killed.

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You.

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They can't say that.

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Because they see.

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That the others.

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Are just as religiously.

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Observant.

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And.

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Traditional.

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And want to serve.

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God.

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Just as they want.

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And then they have to say.

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Well.

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Then we have to find.

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Solutions.

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How we can work it out together.

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And then the process starts.

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But as long as we can say.

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Well.

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All of Islam.

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Hate us.

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They want us out.

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Then we have to survive.

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And when we have to survive.

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All means.

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Can work.

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But.

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When we suddenly see.

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The most extreme.

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Leaders.

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Of Islam.

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Who say.

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We want to live together.

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With you.

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In Israel.

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We want to find the solution.

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Which gives us.

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Respect.

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And freedom.

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But.

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Which also respects you.

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And you.

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For security.

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Then suddenly.

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Also the rabbis.

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Want to be a part of this.

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And.

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And.

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In this way.

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We can solve.

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All the difficult issues.

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On the table.

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We can talk about.

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What's happening.

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On.

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Charm Sharif.

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We can talk about.

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What's happening.

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In Jerusalem.

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We can talk about.

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What is happening.

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Also.

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In difficult.

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Humanitarian.

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Issues.

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Everything is on the table.

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And we can suddenly.

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Help each other.

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Instead of fighting each other.

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But when we.

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Just talk about.

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Each other.

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You know.

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In a religious dialogue.

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Which is just a dialogue.

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And it doesn't.

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Talk about.

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The elephant.

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In the room.

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And the real.

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Conflict.

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We talk about.

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The real conflict.

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We don't.

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Just have a religious dialogue.

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When we talk about.

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Abstract.

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Values.

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We talk about.

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The values.

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Which have to be.

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Translated.

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Into.

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Solutions.

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For.

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Our.

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People.

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Who are.

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Hurting.

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And bleeding.

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And suffering.

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Well.

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I.

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Think.

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That.

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Islam.

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Is.

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A.

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Great.

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Religion.

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In our world.

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It has so much.

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It does so much.

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Good.

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And so much.

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Influence.

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Uh.

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Over.

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So many.

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People.

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And.

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In.

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The Jewish.

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Tradition.

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Uh.

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It is.

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Considered.

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To be.

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A great.

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Step.

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Towards.

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The.

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Belief.

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In.

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One.

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And the same.

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God.

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And therefore.

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I believe.

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That when we work.

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Together.

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There is.

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No.

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Limit.

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To.

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How much.

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Good.

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This can do.

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For.

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The future.

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And I've seen this.

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In.

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An example.

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We did here.

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In this office.

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You're standing.

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We had.

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Two years ago.

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Idul Atcha.

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And Yom Kippur.

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The holiest day.

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In the Jewish calendar.

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And.

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And.

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Idul Atcha.

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It was on the same day.

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And we had.

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Great.

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Warnings.

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About.

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Bloodshed.

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Which would be.

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On that day.

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And go.

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In.

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Each other.

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Jerusalem.

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Of Yom Kippur.

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God.

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Allah.

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To Abraham.

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People.

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To be.

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To sacrifice.

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I don't.

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Want.

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Sacrifice.

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In.

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My name.

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I want.

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Your obedience.

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The sacrifice.

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What.

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This message.

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Days.

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Yom.

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Kippur.

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Why.

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Can't.

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In.

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The.

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Middle East.