WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.680 In the studio with me, Mr. Maksim Babitsky, who recently visited a conference, 00:04.680 --> 00:07.860 which is dedicated to the dialogue in Turkey. 00:07.860 --> 00:08.860 Maksim, hello. 00:08.860 --> 00:09.360 Hello. 00:09.360 --> 00:13.860 We are talking about today, but in Turkey, how was it? 00:13.860 --> 00:16.020 Well, you know, it was interesting. 00:16.020 --> 00:19.020 First of all, it was like in the cinema. 00:19.020 --> 00:22.760 Because the first part of the country really worried about our safety, 00:22.760 --> 00:26.160 and there was a delegation of 13 people on this plane. 00:26.160 --> 00:29.620 In this plane, there were 8 people on the plane. 00:29.620 --> 00:35.220 Some of us, some of our delegations were ravines, so they were dressed like ravines. 00:35.220 --> 00:39.180 So it was a safe space, of course, on the highest level. 00:39.180 --> 00:42.460 When we came out, we had about 20 people on the street, 00:42.460 --> 00:46.300 there were very, very, very, very people. 00:46.300 --> 00:48.000 We were in the car, we were in the car, 00:48.000 --> 00:50.020 we were in the car, we were in the car, 00:50.020 --> 00:52.460 we were in the car, we were in the car. 00:52.460 --> 00:57.460 As soon as it was, it was the director of this conference, 00:57.460 --> 01:08.860 famous Polish German geliyor, 01:08.860 --> 01:11.020 other people that made us проблем with them and their business. 01:11.020 --> 01:18.020 And here we were in these gyps, and after that we were in the parking lot, where we were in the parking lot, where we were in the parking lot. 01:19.020 --> 01:25.020 We visited the synagogues, today it's not a synagogu, it's a museum. 01:26.020 --> 01:31.020 Unfortunately, in this synagogu she survived two very large terakters. 01:31.020 --> 01:34.020 One died 22 people, another 23 people. 01:34.020 --> 01:36.020 So, the synagogues were there. 01:36.020 --> 01:40.020 We sent our darkons to this synagogu, to this museum. 01:41.020 --> 01:48.020 There was an interesting incident. 01:48.020 --> 01:51.020 There was a young man, 22-23. 01:52.020 --> 01:55.020 He was a student from Iran. 01:55.020 --> 02:02.020 I don't know how he came to the synagogu, but in principle, he was free to visit, because it was a museum. 02:02.020 --> 02:04.020 And suddenly, he began to talk with us in the Jews. 02:04.020 --> 02:06.020 We were just in shock. 02:06.020 --> 02:11.020 And then, he was a student, a man who can think. 02:11.020 --> 02:15.020 He said, that our government all the time tells us, how bad are the Jews and the Jews. 02:15.020 --> 02:16.020 And then, it was interesting. 02:16.020 --> 02:18.020 I started reading in the internet about the Jews. 02:18.020 --> 02:21.020 And here, he was able to read the Jews on the internet. 02:21.020 --> 02:23.020 And he was a very nice young man. 02:23.020 --> 02:24.020 He was a young man. 02:24.020 --> 02:25.020 He was a young man. 02:25.020 --> 02:28.020 He began to tell us about our history. 02:28.020 --> 02:31.020 He began to tell us about our government, about our party. 02:31.020 --> 02:33.020 So, he was really angry. 02:33.020 --> 02:37.020 And one of our participants said, that he was not a spy. 02:37.020 --> 02:40.020 Because he was too much information he knew. 02:40.020 --> 02:43.020 He was a activist, Alexander Babushkin. 02:43.020 --> 02:51.020 He was also with us a man who was an Arab, but a Christian. 02:51.020 --> 02:54.020 And he was a part of this organization in Israel, 02:54.020 --> 03:00.020 that they explained to their young people, why they needed to serve in the army. 03:00.020 --> 03:05.020 Now, the purpose of all this was to be able to find people from different worlds. 03:05.020 --> 03:08.020 You know, there was a lot of stereotypes. 03:08.020 --> 03:11.020 I never thought that there was a Muslim... 03:11.020 --> 03:15.020 There are some people who fought for the world, but by the way, 03:15.020 --> 03:18.020 by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way, by the way. 03:18.020 --> 03:22.020 So, there are the same people who have the same people, by the way, by the way, by the way. 03:22.020 --> 03:37.020 So, there are some people who have the same people who have the same people who have the same people who have the same people in Israel. 03:37.020 --> 03:40.020 And, you know, they all in one voice, they say only one thing. 03:40.020 --> 03:44.020 We don't want to return to Israel as prisoners. 03:44.020 --> 03:47.020 We want to, where we live, to give us a country. 03:47.020 --> 03:50.020 We want to absorb them there, where we live. 03:50.020 --> 03:51.020 We want peace. 03:51.020 --> 03:52.020 But we fear. 03:52.020 --> 03:53.020 We fear. 03:53.020 --> 03:54.020 We fear. 03:54.020 --> 03:58.020 If the Israeli government supported us, would give us a legitimation, 03:58.020 --> 04:01.020 then we would have a great pleasure to be able to participate in the elections, 04:01.020 --> 04:05.020 and to achieve that, that there was a peace. 04:05.020 --> 04:07.020 They look at it completely different. 04:07.020 --> 04:10.020 But, for example, Adnan Akhtar, he said so, 04:10.020 --> 04:13.020 that in the Koran it is written, 04:13.020 --> 04:17.020 that the sons of Israel should return to this land and raise the people who have been there. 04:17.020 --> 04:20.020 More than that, he explains... 04:20.020 --> 04:22.020 This organization is called the culture of the world. 04:22.020 --> 04:24.020 They say that... 04:24.020 --> 04:26.020 They are talking about anti-semitism. 04:26.020 --> 04:29.020 They explain, that in the Tore they don't write about it, 04:29.020 --> 04:30.020 they write about it, they write about it. 04:30.020 --> 04:32.020 They send millions of copies of books, 04:32.020 --> 04:36.020 they send them out on English, on many languages. 04:36.020 --> 04:39.020 One of the books, for example, is the Tora with love. 04:39.020 --> 04:43.020 The second book shows the Tora with the Koran, 04:43.020 --> 04:45.020 shows that they, in principle, are the same, 04:45.020 --> 04:46.020 that we are the same, we are the same. 04:46.020 --> 04:47.020 We are the same, we are the same. 04:47.020 --> 04:50.020 And then, he says that they are all very aggressive. 04:50.020 --> 04:54.020 He says that any Muslim, 04:54.020 --> 04:57.020 he is not afraid of other people. 04:57.020 --> 04:59.020 Because in the Koran it is written, 04:59.020 --> 05:02.020 that there is no doubt to another person. 05:02.020 --> 05:04.020 I was very surprised. 05:04.020 --> 05:07.020 It's possible, Trevor Vandenberg. 05:07.020 --> 05:16.020 I have some more questions. 05:16.020 --> 05:19.020 One benefit you would give us some more, 05:19.020 --> 05:21.020 but rather, 05:21.020 --> 05:24.020 that there, what it seems is a very serious "...player." 05:24.020 --> 05:28.520 You know, if we didn't have a ravinov, no one would even think that we are Jews, it is one. 05:28.520 --> 05:34.720 Two, we had the interest in these two days, we didn't find any words about Israel. 05:34.720 --> 05:37.720 We think that all are just talking about us, all are just talking about us. 05:37.720 --> 05:39.720 They have a vote for a month. 05:39.720 --> 05:44.420 So, all this rhetoric of Erdogan is more focused on our own people, 05:44.420 --> 05:47.720 because it is all, I think, it is absolutely an agitation. 05:47.720 --> 05:55.420 And the turks, they are normal, they are, like in any country, there are extreme people, of course. 05:55.420 --> 06:00.220 And the безопасness, I think, was more related to the fact that, first, as I said earlier, 06:00.220 --> 06:02.720 there were the leaders of the same organization. 06:02.720 --> 06:06.920 And, second, there are always some fanatics who can do something. 06:06.920 --> 06:09.220 But, of course, there is no way to be there. 06:09.220 --> 06:12.220 There is no reason to start messing with our flag. 06:12.220 --> 06:16.220 Because, you know, we don't need to be a thousand fanatics. 06:16.220 --> 06:20.720 We don't need one, who will come and break, or will come and bite, and someone will arrest us. 06:20.720 --> 06:22.720 So, always need to be careful. 06:22.720 --> 06:24.720 Maksim Babietsky, thank you very much. 06:24.720 --> 06:25.720 Thank you very much. 06:25.720 --> 06:26.720 Thank you very much.