1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,500
...

2
00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:11,460
...dans l'université grégorienne, l'université Notre-Dame,

3
00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,300
se sont groupés pour organiser à l'université grégorienne à Rome

4
00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:17,400
un symposium sur l'évolution.

5
00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,200
Et à ce symposium, on pouvait évidemment s'inscrire,

6
00:00:21,940 --> 00:00:23,540
on pouvait demander à intervenir,

7
00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,720
et plusieurs membres, quelques membres du secte,

8
00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,020
donc Pierre-Avignon, Guy-Biard, Guy-Biard,

9
00:00:27,020 --> 00:00:28,040
on pouvait demander à intervenir,

10
00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,880
mais apparemment leur collaboration n'était pas jugée utile.

11
00:00:32,380 --> 00:00:36,300
Il faut dire que la fondation Templeton avait donné un million de dollars

12
00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:39,360
de sponsoring, excusez-moi le mot,

13
00:00:39,940 --> 00:00:41,100
mais je préfère le dire en anglais,

14
00:00:41,620 --> 00:00:43,500
pour la tenue de cette réunion.

15
00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,080
Donc de quoi payer quelques billets d'avion

16
00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,260
pour les personnalités qui sont intervenues.

17
00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,320
Mais on pouvait s'inscrire, assister,

18
00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:53,160
et on pouvait poser des questions,

19
00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,900
et le docteur Abouna était là-bas,

20
00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:57,000
il a posé des questions et il vous racontera ce qui s'est passé.

21
00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,880
Donc, je suis très heureux,

22
00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,880
et je suis très heureux d'être parmi vous,

23
00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:31,100
et d'avoir répondu à l'administration qui m'avait été faite,

24
00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:31,640
parce que ça se découpe pas.

25
00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:35,800
Mon collègue, mon ami Salim,

26
00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:37,740
a juste parlé de nos activités.

27
00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,900
Nous représentons M. Adnan Oktar,

28
00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:41,940
qui utilise le penneau « Hari Yahya »

29
00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:44,780
et il a convainc ses profs de respect

30
00:01:44,780 --> 00:01:46,440
et de réveiller à tous de vous,

31
00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,160
et nous aimerions vous rencontrer en Turquie.

32
00:01:48,260 --> 00:01:49,120
Nous pouvons vous rencontrer en Turquie.

33
00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,300
Donc, comme Alisa Doulenguin qui vous a parlé,

34
00:01:54,860 --> 00:01:57,620
nous représentons ici Adnan Oktar,

35
00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,900
le dirigeant de l'association Haru Yahya,

36
00:02:02,340 --> 00:02:05,240
et nous sommes heureux de vous accueillir.

37
00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:30,440
Donc, c'est une grande occasion pour nous

38
00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,980
de montrer une collaboration possible

39
00:02:32,980 --> 00:02:34,920
entre nous et nos frères chrétiens,

40
00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,340
et dans cette lutte en particulier

41
00:02:37,340 --> 00:02:39,580
contre le laroïnisme,

42
00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,680
qui est la source de tout le monde.

43
00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,540
Alors, je voudrais commencer

44
00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:47,280
avec les activités de M. Adnan Oktar

45
00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,420
et nous, ce que nous faisons,

46
00:02:48,580 --> 00:02:49,440
je voudrais vous montrer.

47
00:02:50,220 --> 00:02:51,600
Et, first of all,

48
00:02:51,660 --> 00:02:52,360
je voudrais commencer

49
00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,500
« Le monde a besoin d'unité et de paix

50
00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:56,860
plus que jamais. »

51
00:02:56,860 --> 00:02:59,860
Donc, pour démarrer cette présentation

52
00:02:59,860 --> 00:03:01,480
d'activités parmi les heures,

53
00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:07,360
on va commencer par cette idée,

54
00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,720
que le monde a besoin d'unité

55
00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,940
et de paix plus que jamais.

56
00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,300
Muslims, Jews, and Christians

57
00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:18,360
believe in the existence

58
00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,960
and unity of God, Allah.

59
00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,180
Muslims are not at one pole,

60
00:03:23,460 --> 00:03:24,500
and Jews and Christians

61
00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:26,120
are not at the opposing pole.

62
00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:28,420
One pole represents people

63
00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:29,900
who believe in the existence

64
00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:31,000
and the unity of Allah,

65
00:03:31,340 --> 00:03:32,620
and the other pole represents

66
00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:33,400
the unbelievers.

67
00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,560
The unbelievers who believe

68
00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,560
in such anti-religious ideologies

69
00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,620
is materialism and darwinism.

70
00:03:39,620 --> 00:03:42,520
Donc, les Muslims, les Jews,

71
00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,100
et les Chrétiens

72
00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:44,140
croient l'existence

73
00:03:44,140 --> 00:03:45,040
et l'inuité de Dieu.

74
00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:46,680
Allah, pour les Muslims.

75
00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,820
Les Muslims ne sont pas un pole,

76
00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,060
et les Jews et les Chrétiens

77
00:03:50,060 --> 00:03:51,820
ne sont pas à l'autre pole.

78
00:03:52,660 --> 00:03:54,420
Un pole représente

79
00:03:54,420 --> 00:03:56,460
les gens qui croient

80
00:03:56,460 --> 00:03:57,980
dans l'existence

81
00:03:57,980 --> 00:03:58,720
et l'inuité de Dieu,

82
00:03:58,920 --> 00:03:59,900
et l'autre pole,

83
00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,180
ceux qui représentent

84
00:04:01,180 --> 00:04:02,100
les incroyants.

85
00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:03,460
Les incroyants

86
00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:04,600
qui croient

87
00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,880
dans de telles

88
00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,940
idéologies anti-religieuses

89
00:04:07,940 --> 00:04:09,060
comme le matérialisme

90
00:04:09,060 --> 00:04:10,360
et le darwinisme.

91
00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,340
The true solution is

92
00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:15,220
the alliance

93
00:04:15,220 --> 00:04:16,160
of non-believers

94
00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,220
can only be defeated

95
00:04:17,220 --> 00:04:18,260
by means

96
00:04:18,260 --> 00:04:19,380
of intellectual struggle

97
00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:20,300
against darwinism

98
00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:21,060
and materialism.

99
00:04:21,060 --> 00:04:29,120
contre les non-croyants

100
00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:35,140
ne peut être défaite

101
00:04:35,140 --> 00:04:37,380
que par le moyen

102
00:04:37,380 --> 00:04:38,780
d'une lutte intellectuelle

103
00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:40,220
contre l'arminisme

104
00:04:40,220 --> 00:04:40,960
et le matérialisme.

105
00:04:41,220 --> 00:04:41,720
Donc, ça ne peut pas

106
00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,400
être une alliance

107
00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,140
simplement pratique.

108
00:04:44,140 --> 00:04:46,280
Mr. Adnan Oktar

109
00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:47,000
is an advocate

110
00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,720
of the unity.

111
00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,580
He is a prominent

112
00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:50,380
Turkish intellectual

113
00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:51,860
and world-known creationist.

114
00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:52,840
For years,

115
00:04:53,260 --> 00:04:54,420
you see Mr. Adnan Oktar

116
00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:55,400
with the pen name

117
00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,040
Haare Yahya.

118
00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,240
For years,

119
00:04:57,420 --> 00:04:58,240
in all his works

120
00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,100
and conversations,

121
00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,200
Mr. Adnan Oktar

122
00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,140
has been advocating

123
00:05:01,140 --> 00:05:01,840
the fact

124
00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:03,020
that Christians

125
00:05:03,020 --> 00:05:03,840
and Muslims

126
00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:05,240
should most definitely

127
00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,060
be in unity

128
00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:07,580
in the intellectual struggle

129
00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:09,120
against atheistic

130
00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,420
faithless ideologies.

131
00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,120
On every occasion,

132
00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:12,840
Mr. Oktar

133
00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:13,940
gives utterance

134
00:05:13,940 --> 00:05:14,660
to the fact

135
00:05:14,660 --> 00:05:15,900
that once Christians

136
00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:16,520
and Muslims

137
00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,200
supply a kind of support

138
00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,780
to each other,

139
00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,080
they will put together

140
00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,060
a great power

141
00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:22,440
upon the basis

142
00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:22,980
of love

143
00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:23,720
and brotherhood.

144
00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,180
Donc, Adnan Oktar

145
00:05:26,180 --> 00:05:27,520
est un éminent

146
00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,700
intellectual turc

147
00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:30,800
et un créationiste

148
00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,960
mondialement connu

149
00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,860
depuis des années

150
00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:34,180
dans tous les travaux

151
00:05:34,180 --> 00:05:35,300
et ses...

152
00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:35,680
enfin,

153
00:05:35,780 --> 00:05:38,120
ses conférences,

154
00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:39,100
M. Oktar

155
00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:41,540
a, disons,

156
00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:42,780
défendu le fait

157
00:05:42,780 --> 00:05:43,400
que les Christians

158
00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,080
et les Muslims

159
00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,880
ne devraient pas,

160
00:05:45,140 --> 00:05:45,300
enfin,

161
00:05:45,340 --> 00:05:46,940
devraient définitivement

162
00:05:46,940 --> 00:05:47,760
s'unir

163
00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,460
dans une lutte intellectuelle

164
00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:49,840
contre

165
00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,680
les idéologies

166
00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,800
athées

167
00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,060
et sans foi

168
00:05:55,060 --> 00:05:57,280
et dans différentes occasions,

169
00:05:57,540 --> 00:05:58,200
M. Oktar

170
00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:58,800
donne

171
00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,940
sa voix

172
00:06:00,940 --> 00:06:01,400
au fait

173
00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,540
qu'une fois

174
00:06:02,540 --> 00:06:03,100
que les Christians

175
00:06:03,100 --> 00:06:03,780
et les Muslims

176
00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:05,760
s'apporteront

177
00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,340
mutuellement

178
00:06:06,340 --> 00:06:07,160
toutes sortes

179
00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,540
d'aides

180
00:06:08,540 --> 00:06:09,640
et ils mettront

181
00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,200
ensemble

182
00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,760
donc une grande force

183
00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000
au service

184
00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,560
de l'amour

185
00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,360
et de l'Africain.

186
00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,500
Belief in evolution

187
00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:20,540
in Islamic countries

188
00:06:20,540 --> 00:06:21,000
there is

189
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,640
a lot

190
00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,260
of Darwinism

191
00:06:22,260 --> 00:06:22,680
in Islamic

192
00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,300
countries

193
00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:24,220
courses

194
00:06:24,220 --> 00:06:24,580
on the

195
00:06:24,580 --> 00:06:24,800
theory

196
00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,340
of evolution

197
00:06:25,340 --> 00:06:26,000
are mandatory

198
00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:26,800
in universities

199
00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,200
in all

200
00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,560
Islamic

201
00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,140
countries

202
00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:29,040
Belief

203
00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,920
in evolutionary

204
00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:30,420
theory

205
00:06:30,420 --> 00:06:31,160
is essential

206
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,980
for having

207
00:06:31,980 --> 00:06:32,460
an academic

208
00:06:32,460 --> 00:06:32,900
career

209
00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:34,140
arguing

210
00:06:34,140 --> 00:06:34,700
against

211
00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:35,580
Darwinism

212
00:06:35,580 --> 00:06:35,960
means

213
00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:36,660
an instant

214
00:06:36,660 --> 00:06:37,100
end on

215
00:06:37,100 --> 00:06:37,480
one's

216
00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:37,860
career

217
00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:39,380
Iran

218
00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:39,920
for example

219
00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,340
allows

220
00:06:40,340 --> 00:06:40,800
a great

221
00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,060
deal

222
00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:41,680
of coverage

223
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,100
to the

224
00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:42,280
theory

225
00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:42,760
of evolution

226
00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,160
in their

227
00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,660
curriculum

228
00:06:43,660 --> 00:06:44,980
standing

229
00:06:44,980 --> 00:06:45,420
against

230
00:06:45,420 --> 00:06:45,840
that their

231
00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:46,300
evolution

232
00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:46,760
would be

233
00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,140
considered

234
00:06:47,140 --> 00:06:48,120
as unscientific

235
00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:48,460
in these

236
00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:48,940
countries

237
00:06:48,940 --> 00:06:50,400
they try

238
00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:50,820
to reach

239
00:06:50,820 --> 00:06:51,220
a common

240
00:06:51,220 --> 00:06:51,560
ground

241
00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:51,860
between

242
00:06:51,860 --> 00:06:52,300
evolution

243
00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:52,860
and belief

244
00:06:52,860 --> 00:06:54,460
donc

245
00:06:54,460 --> 00:06:54,640
les

246
00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:54,860
pays

247
00:06:54,860 --> 00:06:55,380
musulmans

248
00:06:55,380 --> 00:06:55,820
contrairement

249
00:06:55,820 --> 00:06:56,120
à ce que

250
00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:56,400
certains

251
00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:56,720
pourraient

252
00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,040
croire

253
00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:57,340
ne sont

254
00:06:57,340 --> 00:06:57,520
très

255
00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:57,800
différents

256
00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:57,960
des

257
00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,300
nôtres

258
00:06:58,300 --> 00:06:59,520
en ce qui

259
00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,040
concerne

260
00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,480
l'importance

261
00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,900
de la

262
00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:03,060
théorie

263
00:07:03,060 --> 00:07:03,480
de l'évolution

264
00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:03,900
puisque

265
00:07:03,900 --> 00:07:05,240
dans ces

266
00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,380
pays

267
00:07:05,380 --> 00:07:05,880
musulmans

268
00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,060
d'une part

269
00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:08,200
la théorie

270
00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:08,700
de l'évolution

271
00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:10,020
est obligatoire

272
00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:11,000
d'un enseignement

273
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,460
obligatoire

274
00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:12,640
dans les universités

275
00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,680
la croyance

276
00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,660
dans la théorie

277
00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:15,980
évolutionniste

278
00:07:15,980 --> 00:07:16,660
est essentielle

279
00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:17,080
pour avoir

280
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:17,540
une carrière

281
00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:18,060
académique

282
00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:18,400
donc c'est

283
00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:18,800
exactement

284
00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:19,420
comme chez nous

285
00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:20,920
et

286
00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,760
évidemment

287
00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,080
argumenter

288
00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,400
contre

289
00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,200
l'évolution

290
00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,300
signifie

291
00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:25,880
la fin

292
00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,480
immédiate

293
00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,800
de sa carrière

294
00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,540
en Iran

295
00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:30,560
ça c'est

296
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,000
intéressant

297
00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,360
pour les

298
00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,340
français

299
00:07:33,340 --> 00:07:33,720
parce que

300
00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,360
la vision

301
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:34,740
de l'Iran

302
00:07:34,740 --> 00:07:35,140
que nos

303
00:07:35,140 --> 00:07:35,620
amis ont

304
00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:36,180
est très

305
00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:36,760
très différente

306
00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,140
de celle

307
00:07:37,140 --> 00:07:37,940
que l'on a

308
00:07:37,940 --> 00:07:38,240
dans nos

309
00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:38,600
journaux

310
00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,820
en fait

311
00:07:39,820 --> 00:07:40,320
l'Iran

312
00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:40,660
attache

313
00:07:40,660 --> 00:07:41,580
une grande

314
00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:42,120
importance

315
00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,120
à la

316
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,820
diffusion

317
00:07:43,820 --> 00:07:44,100
de la

318
00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:44,260
théorie

319
00:07:44,260 --> 00:07:44,760
d'évolution

320
00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:45,100
dans

321
00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:45,700
les

322
00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:46,240
curriculums

323
00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:46,720
scolaires

324
00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,380
des

325
00:07:47,380 --> 00:07:48,420
étudiants

326
00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:49,620
et

327
00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:51,240
donc

328
00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,040
se dresser

329
00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,300
contre

330
00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:52,480
la

331
00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:52,680
théorie

332
00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,140
d'évolution

333
00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:53,620
comme

334
00:07:53,620 --> 00:07:54,160
font

335
00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:54,520
les

336
00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:54,720
gens

337
00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,300
d'Arudiania

338
00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:55,700
seraient

339
00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:56,260
considérés

340
00:07:56,260 --> 00:07:56,500
comme

341
00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:57,520
non-scientifiques

342
00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,760
le simple fait

343
00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:58,940
d'être

344
00:07:58,940 --> 00:07:59,480
contre l'évolution

345
00:07:59,480 --> 00:07:59,840
vous êtes

346
00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,160
classé

347
00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,680
non-scientifique

348
00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:00,860
c'est

349
00:08:00,860 --> 00:08:01,360
exactement

350
00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:01,980
comme

351
00:08:01,980 --> 00:08:02,380
chez nous

352
00:08:02,380 --> 00:08:03,120
et

353
00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,620
évidemment

354
00:08:03,620 --> 00:08:06,500
ils essayent

355
00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:07,020
de

356
00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:08,560
de

357
00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,300
mélanger

358
00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:13,000
le terrain

359
00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,360
dans les

360
00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:14,800
questions

361
00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,580
d'évolution

362
00:08:15,580 --> 00:08:16,000
et les

363
00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,240
questions

364
00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:16,780
de présence

365
00:08:16,780 --> 00:08:21,720
d'évolution

366
00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,320
d'évolution

367
00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:22,880
il y a

368
00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,440
300

369
00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:23,940
books

370
00:08:23,940 --> 00:08:24,640
translated

371
00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:24,800
into

372
00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:24,920
more

373
00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,060
than

374
00:08:25,060 --> 00:08:25,480
75

375
00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,140
languages

376
00:08:26,140 --> 00:08:26,360
and

377
00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:26,760
800

378
00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,360
websites

379
00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,360
in

380
00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,120
1980s

381
00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:29,500
while

382
00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:29,880
Mr.

383
00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,240
Adnan

384
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:30,660
Oktar

385
00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:31,140
was a

386
00:08:31,140 --> 00:08:31,400
student

387
00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:31,620
in

388
00:08:31,620 --> 00:08:31,740
the

389
00:08:31,740 --> 00:08:32,300
university

390
00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:32,900
he

391
00:08:32,900 --> 00:08:33,220
started

392
00:08:33,220 --> 00:08:33,480
his

393
00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:33,820
works

394
00:08:33,820 --> 00:08:33,980
with

395
00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:34,100
a

396
00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:34,360
small

397
00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:34,900
brochure

398
00:08:34,900 --> 00:08:35,440
named

399
00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:35,680
The

400
00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:36,040
Evolution

401
00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:36,500
Deceit

402
00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:37,400
and

403
00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:37,540
in

404
00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:37,660
the

405
00:08:37,660 --> 00:08:37,940
following

406
00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:38,360
years

407
00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:38,560
he

408
00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:38,820
gathered

409
00:08:38,820 --> 00:08:39,240
his

410
00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:39,680
research

411
00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:39,880
in

412
00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:39,980
a

413
00:08:39,980 --> 00:08:40,160
book

414
00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,420
named

415
00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:40,600
The

416
00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:40,960
Evolution

417
00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,480
Deceit

418
00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:41,800
that

419
00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,040
is

420
00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,380
one

421
00:08:42,380 --> 00:08:42,460
of

422
00:08:42,460 --> 00:08:42,560
the

423
00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:42,760
first

424
00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,040
ones

425
00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,200
his

426
00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:43,560
brochure

427
00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:44,640
this book

428
00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:44,820
which

429
00:08:44,820 --> 00:08:45,060
was

430
00:08:45,060 --> 00:08:45,520
sold

431
00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:45,680
in

432
00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:46,020
millions

433
00:08:46,020 --> 00:08:46,280
with

434
00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,760
extended

435
00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,280
editions

436
00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:47,800
had

437
00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,000
been

438
00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:48,520
translated

439
00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:48,840
into

440
00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,120
tens

441
00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,320
of

442
00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,620
different

443
00:08:49,620 --> 00:08:50,060
languages

444
00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:50,440
like

445
00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,300
Chinese

446
00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:52,180
Urdu

447
00:08:52,180 --> 00:08:53,100
Serbian

448
00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:53,820
Portuguese

449
00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:54,540
Polish

450
00:08:54,540 --> 00:08:55,100
Malay

451
00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:56,300
Hebrew

452
00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:57,060
Rosa

453
00:08:57,060 --> 00:08:57,760
Czech

454
00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,180
Bosnian

455
00:08:59,180 --> 00:08:59,800
Bulgarian

456
00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,160
as well

457
00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:00,300
as

458
00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:00,640
major

459
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,160
languages

460
00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:01,460
like

461
00:09:01,460 --> 00:09:01,860
English

462
00:09:01,860 --> 00:09:02,220
French

463
00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:02,520
German

464
00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:02,960
Italian

465
00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:03,180
and

466
00:09:03,180 --> 00:09:03,460
Russian

467
00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:04,060
and

468
00:09:04,060 --> 00:09:04,200
has

469
00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:04,340
been

470
00:09:04,340 --> 00:09:04,680
published

471
00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:04,880
in

472
00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,120
hundreds

473
00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,340
of

474
00:09:05,340 --> 00:09:05,720
editions

475
00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,100
so

476
00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:09,000
the

477
00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:09,860
travaux

478
00:09:09,860 --> 00:09:10,060
of

479
00:09:10,060 --> 00:09:10,360
Dan

480
00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:10,880
Oktar

481
00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,080
on

482
00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,660
contre

483
00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:12,840
la

484
00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,020
theory

485
00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:13,100
of

486
00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:13,580
evolution

487
00:09:13,580 --> 00:09:15,920
Mr.

488
00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,380
Oktar

489
00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:16,960
in 1980

490
00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,180
studied

491
00:09:18,180 --> 00:09:18,260
at

492
00:09:18,260 --> 00:09:18,900
university

493
00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:19,200
and

494
00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:19,340
it

495
00:09:19,340 --> 00:09:19,400
is

496
00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:19,460
at

497
00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:19,560
this

498
00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:19,700
moment

499
00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:20,000
that

500
00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,180
he

501
00:09:20,180 --> 00:09:20,740
started

502
00:09:20,740 --> 00:09:20,900
his

503
00:09:20,900 --> 00:09:21,240
work

504
00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:21,560
with

505
00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:21,720
a

506
00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:21,960
little

507
00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:22,420
brochure

508
00:09:22,420 --> 00:09:22,900
called

509
00:09:22,900 --> 00:09:24,040
The

510
00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,500
Deception

511
00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:25,160
of

512
00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:25,240
the

513
00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:25,580
Evolution

514
00:09:25,580 --> 00:09:26,520
and

515
00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:26,940
during

516
00:09:26,940 --> 00:09:27,160
the

517
00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:27,420
years

518
00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:28,340
he

519
00:09:28,340 --> 00:09:28,660
he

520
00:09:28,660 --> 00:09:30,660
rassembled

521
00:09:30,660 --> 00:09:31,240
all his

522
00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:31,540
research

523
00:09:31,540 --> 00:09:31,680
in

524
00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,080
a

525
00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:33,520
book

526
00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,980
called

527
00:09:34,980 --> 00:09:35,580
The

528
00:09:35,580 --> 00:09:35,980
Deception

529
00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:36,480
d'Evolution

530
00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,340
this

531
00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:37,940
book

532
00:09:37,940 --> 00:09:38,220
has

533
00:09:38,220 --> 00:09:38,280
been

534
00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:38,600
sold

535
00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:38,820
to

536
00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:39,260
millions

537
00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:39,400
of

538
00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:39,980
examples

539
00:09:39,980 --> 00:09:40,860
with

540
00:09:40,860 --> 00:09:41,220
a

541
00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:41,420
large

542
00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:41,640
number

543
00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,220
of

544
00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:42,660
editions

545
00:09:42,660 --> 00:09:42,920
which

546
00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,060
have

547
00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:43,160
been

548
00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,440
translated

549
00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:44,560
in

550
00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:44,780
a

551
00:09:44,780 --> 00:09:45,040
number

552
00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,120
of

553
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:45,400
languages

554
00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:45,800
which

555
00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,620
is

556
00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:46,960
practically

557
00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,180
the

558
00:09:47,180 --> 00:09:47,280
same

559
00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:47,760
in

560
00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:47,980
English

561
00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:48,160
and

562
00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:48,320
the

563
00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:48,440
time

564
00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:48,520
you

565
00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:48,560
will

566
00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:48,820
not

567
00:09:48,820 --> 00:09:49,500
and

568
00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:50,020
with

569
00:09:50,020 --> 00:09:50,420
hundreds

570
00:09:50,420 --> 00:09:50,720
of

571
00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,140
editions

572
00:09:51,140 --> 00:09:51,460
of

573
00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:51,720
each

574
00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,100
of

575
00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:52,380
his

576
00:09:52,380 --> 00:09:52,980
traductions

577
00:09:52,980 --> 00:10:22,980


578
00:10:22,980 --> 00:10:23,180
de

579
00:10:23,180 --> 00:10:23,340
and

580
00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:23,780
Dr

581
00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:24,140
sont

582
00:10:24,140 --> 00:10:25,380
présentés

583
00:10:25,380 --> 00:10:25,600
sur

584
00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,380
une

585
00:10:26,380 --> 00:10:26,880
table

586
00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,280
à gauche

587
00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,420
là-haut

588
00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:30,000
vous pourrez

589
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,320
les compulser

590
00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,580
donc il a

591
00:10:32,580 --> 00:10:33,840
au total écrit

592
00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,080
99 livres

593
00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,140
je ne sais pas si c'est symbolique

594
00:10:37,140 --> 00:10:38,500
ou c'est intéressant

595
00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:40,080
mais c'est impressionnant

596
00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,020
qui mettent en évidence

597
00:10:42,020 --> 00:10:43,260
l'invalidité

598
00:10:43,260 --> 00:10:44,420
scientifique

599
00:10:44,420 --> 00:10:45,120
de la théorie

600
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:45,640
d'évolution

601
00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,560
et

602
00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,340
75 livres

603
00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:48,980
positifs

604
00:10:48,980 --> 00:10:49,360
cette fois

605
00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,440
alors c'est ça qui est intéressant

606
00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,400
il y a la critique de l'évolutionnisme

607
00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,820
et puis il y a l'affirmation

608
00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:54,720
des

609
00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,380
les preuves

610
00:10:56,380 --> 00:10:57,360
parfaites

611
00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,100
de la création

612
00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:03,000
par laquelle Dieu a appelé en existence

613
00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,140
l'univers et les êtres vivants

614
00:11:05,140 --> 00:11:06,540
et donc

615
00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:08,280
l'invalidité de l'évolution

616
00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,840
est discutée dans ses livres

617
00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,240
avec un très grand nombre

618
00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:11,940
d'exemples

619
00:11:11,940 --> 00:11:13,980
d'irriments

620
00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:16,780
Arun Yahya

621
00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:17,400
Adnanokta

622
00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,700
is an international hero

623
00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:20,580
his books have spread everywhere

624
00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:21,660
in the islamic world

625
00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:22,800
he has developed

626
00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,080
developed his own

627
00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,020
islamic creationism

628
00:11:25,020 --> 00:11:25,820
this is from

629
00:11:25,820 --> 00:11:26,600
new scientists

630
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,400
22nd april 2001

631
00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,160
new scientists

632
00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:30,540
called

633
00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:31,560
Mr Adnanokta

634
00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:32,720
as an international hero

635
00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,600
for defeating

636
00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,260
Darwinism

637
00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:36,300
donc c'est souvent

638
00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:37,020
chez les adversaires

639
00:11:37,020 --> 00:11:38,760
qu'on est revenus

640
00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,760
et c'est si c'est ça

641
00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:41,680
puisque le new scientist

642
00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,080
qui évidemment a une revue

643
00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,020
complètement révolutionniste

644
00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:46,920
a un jour écrit

645
00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,920
en 2001

646
00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,180
Arun Yahya

647
00:11:49,180 --> 00:11:50,960
est un héros international

648
00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,580
en ce sens

649
00:11:52,580 --> 00:11:53,480
qu'il y a beaucoup de gens

650
00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,700
qui marchent derrière lui

651
00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:56,240
ses livres

652
00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,720
se sont répandus partout

653
00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,680
dans le monde islamique

654
00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:00,880
et il a développé

655
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,640
son propre

656
00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,260
créationnisme islamique

657
00:12:03,260 --> 00:12:06,200
and we have also

658
00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:06,640
creation

659
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,280
it's seven kilograms

660
00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,360
as you see over here

661
00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,420
there is one sample

662
00:12:10,420 --> 00:12:10,960
in the back

663
00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,040
you can take a look at it

664
00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,280
it consists of

665
00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,220
thousands of pictures

666
00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:15,020
of fossils

667
00:12:15,020 --> 00:12:15,960
showing that

668
00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,380
there are no transitional forms

669
00:12:17,380 --> 00:12:18,580
and they emerge

670
00:12:18,580 --> 00:12:19,220
all of a sudden

671
00:12:19,220 --> 00:12:20,140
and never change

672
00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:21,520
and now it's no different

673
00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,540
than in today's samples

674
00:12:22,540 --> 00:12:23,820
it consists of

675
00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:24,780
seven volumes

676
00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:26,300
each volume has about

677
00:12:26,300 --> 00:12:27,620
750 pages

678
00:12:27,620 --> 00:12:29,040
photographs of

679
00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,260
1,500 authentic fossils

680
00:12:31,260 --> 00:12:33,040
a cultural earthquake

681
00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,240
impact in the world

682
00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,760
worldwide distribution

683
00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,720
to academicians

684
00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:37,400
politicians

685
00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,960
renowned authors

686
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:39,780
without a fee

687
00:12:39,780 --> 00:12:40,920
so without a charge

688
00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,580
we send hundreds

689
00:12:41,580 --> 00:12:42,560
thousands of copies

690
00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:43,580
of authors of creation

691
00:12:43,580 --> 00:12:45,280
to major academicians

692
00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,540
politicians

693
00:12:46,540 --> 00:12:47,860
famous singers

694
00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:48,600
from Rihanna

695
00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:49,420
to Tom Cruise

696
00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:50,060
Obama

697
00:12:50,060 --> 00:12:50,720
Sarkozy

698
00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,760
they all get one copy

699
00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,400
100,000 copies

700
00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,140
for your charge

701
00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:56,100
donc la phase

702
00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:56,760
de la création

703
00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,800
par un ouvre

704
00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,160
O'Neillian

705
00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:58,900
a été diffusée

706
00:12:58,900 --> 00:12:59,680
dans le monde entier

707
00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:00,640
envoyée gratuitement

708
00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,280
en plein de personnes

709
00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,040
alors que c'est un

710
00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,180
c'est un livre lourd

711
00:13:04,180 --> 00:13:05,180
qui pèse 7 kilos

712
00:13:05,180 --> 00:13:06,600
parce que c'est un grand format

713
00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,380
papier glacé

714
00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:08,480
avec énormément de photos

715
00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,780
le premier tome

716
00:13:09,780 --> 00:13:10,740
nous avait été présenté

717
00:13:10,740 --> 00:13:11,680
d'ailleurs grâce au docteur

718
00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:12,140
Roulet

719
00:13:12,140 --> 00:13:13,220
au colloque de Bonnel

720
00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:14,120
il y a quelques années

721
00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,860
puisqu'il a été envoyé

722
00:13:15,860 --> 00:13:16,340
gratuitement

723
00:13:16,340 --> 00:13:17,340
à tous les lycées de France

724
00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:18,380
donc les professeurs

725
00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:18,820
de biologie

726
00:13:18,820 --> 00:13:19,280
l'avaient

727
00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,900
et une collègue

728
00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:21,500
de Torroulet

729
00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:22,520
ne sachant qu'en faire

730
00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,440
il avait refilé

731
00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,700
donc ces livres

732
00:13:25,700 --> 00:13:26,640
sont très bien illustrés

733
00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,280
donc vous pouvez

734
00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,640
en consulter

735
00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,560
à la sortie

736
00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:32,040
il y a énormément

737
00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,740
de photographies fossiles

738
00:13:33,740 --> 00:13:36,100
l'argument est très puissant

739
00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:36,680
c'est-à-dire qu'on voit

740
00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:37,800
un animal

741
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,580
sous forme fossile

742
00:13:38,580 --> 00:13:40,040
sous forme contemporaine

743
00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,600
et on constate

744
00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,320
que c'est le même

745
00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,940
donc si le même animal

746
00:13:42,940 --> 00:13:43,440
fossile

747
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,000
n'a pas changé

748
00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:46,900
entre l'époque

749
00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:47,720
où il a fossilisé

750
00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,160
aujourd'hui

751
00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,880
c'est qu'il n'y a pas eu

752
00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,280
l'évolution

753
00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:49,720
enfin voilà

754
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,560
la démonstration

755
00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:52,100
qu'il démasse

756
00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:52,740
soit son puissant

757
00:13:52,740 --> 00:13:53,620
parce que c'est un fait

758
00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:55,800
les faits ne se démontrent pas

759
00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,060
en fait

760
00:13:56,060 --> 00:13:57,300
ni se constatent

761
00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:58,540
et la photographie

762
00:13:58,540 --> 00:13:59,880
est un outil puissant

763
00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:00,300
aujourd'hui

764
00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:02,140
pour le constater

765
00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:05,960
donc là

766
00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,300
on a effectivement

767
00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:08,340
résultat

768
00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:11,460
la diffusion

769
00:14:11,460 --> 00:14:11,920
des lumières

770
00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,320
en Europe

771
00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,400
et effectivement

772
00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,460
cette diffusion

773
00:14:14,460 --> 00:14:15,080
par Ronyalia

774
00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,040
a été une des causes

775
00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,800
de la décision

776
00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,080
du Parlement européen

777
00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,440
donc il y a maintenant

778
00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,260
cinq ans

779
00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:26,360
de prendre

780
00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:27,960
une motion

781
00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:28,920
alors qu'il a été

782
00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,620
très très long

783
00:14:29,620 --> 00:14:30,600
à faire voter

784
00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:31,720
il y a des heures

785
00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,280
qui n'en savaient pas

786
00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:32,580
ce sujet

787
00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:34,600
puisque ça suivait

788
00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:35,420
une opération

789
00:14:35,420 --> 00:14:35,840
qu'avait faite

790
00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,600
Masséa Skirtich

791
00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,580
au Parlement européen

792
00:14:37,580 --> 00:14:38,840
une audition

793
00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,880
au Parlement européen

794
00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,700
sur l'enseignement

795
00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:41,180
de l'évolution

796
00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:41,760
dans l'île d'école

797
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,600
et alors

798
00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,100
il y avait eu

799
00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:45,840
donc cette audition

800
00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,560
de Masséa Skirtich

801
00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,220
il y avait la diffusion

802
00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:47,780
des lumières

803
00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:48,720
et donc

804
00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,780
le Parlement européen

805
00:14:50,780 --> 00:14:51,620
a fait une audition

806
00:14:51,620 --> 00:14:53,540
a joué utile

807
00:14:53,540 --> 00:14:54,900
de mettre un frein

808
00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:55,720
à la diffusion

809
00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,060
de cet horrible

810
00:14:57,060 --> 00:14:57,780
créationnisme

811
00:14:57,780 --> 00:14:58,480
qui menaçait

812
00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,300
et on a

813
00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:00,740
alors ça a été

814
00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:01,440
voté

815
00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,420
mais ils n'ont pas eu

816
00:15:02,420 --> 00:15:03,260
la valorie décisante

817
00:15:03,260 --> 00:15:03,680
donc on a

818
00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,980
reformaté

819
00:15:04,980 --> 00:15:05,800
une autre commission

820
00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:06,780
qui a fini par voter

821
00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:09,460
à une petite minorité

822
00:15:09,460 --> 00:15:10,260
l'idée que

823
00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:11,220
ces idées

824
00:15:11,220 --> 00:15:12,120
de création

825
00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:12,840
ne pouvaient pas

826
00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,560
être enseignées

827
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,140
et puis la liberté

828
00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:16,380
en Europe

829
00:15:16,380 --> 00:15:17,740
mais ne pouvaient pas

830
00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:18,300
être enseignées

831
00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:19,600
dans les cours de science

832
00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,000
devaient être enseignées

833
00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,840
exclusivement

834
00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,760
dans la religion

835
00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:46,340
mais donc il y a eu

836
00:15:46,340 --> 00:15:46,860
effectivement

837
00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:48,300
des réactions

838
00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:49,020
c'est-à-dire que

839
00:15:49,020 --> 00:15:49,860
l'union nationaliste

840
00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:50,540
enfin c'était nu

841
00:15:50,540 --> 00:15:52,880
et d'autre part

842
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,340
un certain nombre

843
00:15:54,340 --> 00:15:55,120
de professeurs

844
00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,320
se sentaient agressés

845
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,040
dans les cours

846
00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,880
par des étudiants

847
00:15:58,880 --> 00:15:59,880
ou des étudiantes

848
00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,140
pas forcément voilés

849
00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:02,180
mais qui posaient

850
00:16:02,180 --> 00:16:02,720
des questions

851
00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,340
quand on en parlait

852
00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:05,820
d'évolution

853
00:16:05,820 --> 00:16:06,400
dans les cours

854
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,420
et évidemment

855
00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:08,040
dans l'enseignement

856
00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,720
secondaire français

857
00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,640
on n'a pas l'habitude

858
00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,020
à l'union secondaire

859
00:16:11,020 --> 00:16:12,080
que les étudiants

860
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,060
contestent

861
00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:13,860
l'enseignement

862
00:16:13,860 --> 00:16:14,460
transmis

863
00:16:14,460 --> 00:16:16,340
et là

864
00:16:16,340 --> 00:16:17,220
je dois dire

865
00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:19,360
que les gens

866
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,480
qui ont réagi

867
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,260
de cette façon

868
00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:22,740
contre l'enseignement

869
00:16:22,740 --> 00:16:24,140
d'arméniens

870
00:16:24,140 --> 00:16:24,600
diffusés

871
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,460
à l'enseignement secondaire

872
00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:26,700
sont chez nous

873
00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:27,280
principalement

874
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:27,880
des musulmans

875
00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,180
et peut-être même

876
00:16:29,180 --> 00:16:29,620
principalement

877
00:16:29,620 --> 00:16:30,220
des musulmans

878
00:16:30,220 --> 00:16:31,200
dans les quartiers sensibles

879
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:31,720
comme on dit

880
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,020
parce que justement

881
00:16:33,020 --> 00:16:34,960
eux ont une conscience

882
00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,920
peut-être plus nette

883
00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,280
du fait

884
00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,100
qu'il y a certaines

885
00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:39,020
que la vérité

886
00:16:39,020 --> 00:16:40,780
entraîne

887
00:16:40,780 --> 00:16:41,960
certains devoirs

888
00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,200
et qu'on ne peut pas

889
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:43,720
accepter

890
00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,460
que le professeur

891
00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:45,540
même si c'est le professeur

892
00:16:45,540 --> 00:16:46,600
disent n'importe quoi

893
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,720
d'arméniens

894
00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,380
maintenant

895
00:16:51,380 --> 00:16:51,560
encore

896
00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,660
le impact

897
00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:53,400
de l'évolution

898
00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,600
Haru Yahya

899
00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,220
dit

900
00:16:55,220 --> 00:16:55,700
dans sa book

901
00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:57,180
de 700 pages

902
00:16:57,180 --> 00:16:58,100
full de photos

903
00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,180
que le théorie

904
00:16:59,180 --> 00:16:59,680
de l'évolution

905
00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,280
est false

906
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,200
et il dit

907
00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,540
en l'évolution

908
00:17:01,540 --> 00:17:03,100
que Darwin

909
00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:03,740
est la source

910
00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:04,540
de terrorisme

911
00:17:04,540 --> 00:17:05,640
et que Darwin

912
00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,840
est responsable

913
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,020
pour l'évolution

914
00:17:08,020 --> 00:17:09,020
d'un des dictators

915
00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:09,780
dans le 20e

916
00:17:09,780 --> 00:17:10,120
siècle

917
00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:10,740
et ceci

918
00:17:10,740 --> 00:17:11,260
est de l'Europe

919
00:17:11,260 --> 00:17:11,900
du conseil

920
00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:12,900
qui a un meeting

921
00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:13,780
et ceci

922
00:17:13,780 --> 00:17:14,400
est le délilien

923
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,920
de la science

924
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:16,320
section

925
00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,420
and that was

926
00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:17,720
about

927
00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,060
atos

928
00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:18,700
of creation

929
00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:20,320
oui c'est

930
00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,000
Madame Brasseur

931
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,100
de la conseillère

932
00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:23,400
alors donc

933
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,120
dans ce livre

934
00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:24,580
Amorin Yahya

935
00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:25,200
dit qu'il y a

936
00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:25,720
dans le livre

937
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,740
de 700 pages

938
00:17:26,740 --> 00:17:28,100
illustré

939
00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:28,640
que la théorie

940
00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,080
de l'évolution

941
00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,820
est fausse

942
00:17:29,820 --> 00:17:30,360
et même

943
00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:30,740
que

944
00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:31,460
dans le premier

945
00:17:31,460 --> 00:17:31,740
volume

946
00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:32,640
ça que Darwin

947
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,320
est la source

948
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,240
du terrorisme

949
00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,060
que Darwin

950
00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:35,780
est responsable

951
00:17:35,780 --> 00:17:36,220
pour toute

952
00:17:36,220 --> 00:17:37,340
la théorocité

953
00:17:37,340 --> 00:17:38,700
faite par les dictateurs

954
00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:39,660
du 20e

955
00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:39,920
siècle

956
00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,760
this is what

957
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,160
she said

958
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,440
actually

959
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,560
that is what

960
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,040
she said

961
00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,180
these words

962
00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:45,880
belongs to her

963
00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,620
oui effectivement

964
00:17:46,620 --> 00:17:47,060
c'est

965
00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:47,840
c'est

966
00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,680
Anne Brasseur

967
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,380
qui dit

968
00:17:49,380 --> 00:17:49,960
que

969
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,500
Arun Yahya

970
00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:50,740
dit

971
00:17:50,740 --> 00:17:51,400
mais en fait

972
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,240
c'est vrai

973
00:17:52,240 --> 00:18:09,820
donc c'est ça

974
00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:10,440
c'est la menace

975
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,120
créationniste

976
00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:11,740
alors il y a eu

977
00:18:11,740 --> 00:18:12,120
dans le set

978
00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:12,740
des articles

979
00:18:12,740 --> 00:18:13,320
sur la menace

980
00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,780
créationniste

981
00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:16,560
donc le danger

982
00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,320
du créationnisme

983
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:17,700
en Europe

984
00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:18,420
est-ce qu'il n'y a

985
00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:18,880
pas des dangers

986
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,700
plus importants

987
00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:19,940
en Europe

988
00:18:19,940 --> 00:18:20,440
je ne sais pas

989
00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,640
parce que justement

990
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,220
les arunis

991
00:18:23,220 --> 00:18:24,260
se désespèrent

992
00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:26,000
dans la mesure

993
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,440
ils n'ont pas

994
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,800
d'argument scientifique

995
00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,040
pour répondre

996
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,860
évidemment

997
00:18:32,860 --> 00:18:35,160
à ceux qui contestent

998
00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:35,620
d'un point de vue

999
00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:36,040
scientifique

1000
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,500
l'évolution

1001
00:18:36,500 --> 00:19:06,500


1002
00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:07,940
this great dream

1003
00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:08,940
of pious Europe

1004
00:19:08,940 --> 00:19:10,020
will be a reality

1005
00:19:10,020 --> 00:19:11,480
I want to repeat

1006
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,740
the sentences

1007
00:19:12,740 --> 00:19:13,340
the struggle

1008
00:19:13,340 --> 00:19:14,040
will be one

1009
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,340
this great dream

1010
00:19:15,340 --> 00:19:16,240
of pious Europe

1011
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,040
will be a reality

1012
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,600
this is to

1013
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,820
Le Nouvelle Observateur

1014
00:19:18,820 --> 00:19:19,960
2009

1015
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,360
donc vous voyez

1016
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:21,800
le danger

1017
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,200
est peut-être

1018
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,400
un passionnant

1019
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,720
parce que

1020
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,220
dit

1021
00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:26,080
cet article

1022
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,980
de Le Nouvelle Observateur

1023
00:19:26,980 --> 00:19:28,040
donc il s'agit

1024
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:28,840
de la plus grande

1025
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,160
offensive créationniste

1026
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,400
jamais rencontrée

1027
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,000
panique

1028
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,100
dans l'éducation

1029
00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:33,800
darwinienne

1030
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,420
Anna Noctard

1031
00:19:35,420 --> 00:19:36,340
est le chef

1032
00:19:36,340 --> 00:19:38,280
du mouvement

1033
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,720
le plus influent

1034
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,360
contre l'évolution

1035
00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:41,520
dans le monde musulman

1036
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,320
et sa force

1037
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,500
de dissuasion

1038
00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:45,760
est impressionnante

1039
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,800
très efficace

1040
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,080
et il n'y a jamais eu

1041
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,660
un tel mouvement

1042
00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:51,400
anti-darwinien

1043
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,100
auparavant

1044
00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:52,760
donc si

1045
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,140
alors

1046
00:19:53,140 --> 00:19:54,500
c'est la chose importante

1047
00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:55,400
si les idées

1048
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,440
créationnistes

1049
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,020
sont victorieuses

1050
00:19:58,020 --> 00:19:58,980
dans ces terres

1051
00:19:58,980 --> 00:19:59,660
dans nos terres

1052
00:19:59,660 --> 00:20:00,800
de philosophie laïque

1053
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,760
la bataille

1054
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,200
va être

1055
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,180
gagnée

1056
00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:04,820
par eux

1057
00:20:04,820 --> 00:20:05,960
et donc

1058
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,760
le grand

1059
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,100
rêve

1060
00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:08,940
d'Anna Noctard

1061
00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:10,080
d'une Europe

1062
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,820
pieuse

1063
00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:12,440
sera une réalité

1064
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,040
finalement

1065
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,000
c'est un rêve

1066
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,220
enfin pour Le Nouvelle

1067
00:20:16,220 --> 00:20:16,720
au sein de l'œuvre

1068
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840
et une vidéo

1069
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,300
please

1070
00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:30,940
ok

1071
00:20:30,940 --> 00:20:31,700
this is a video

1072
00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:34,000
that is

1073
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:34,840
Mr. Adnan Oktar

1074
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,300
he was

1075
00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:35,680
born

1076
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,720
1956

1077
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,540
in Istanbul

1078
00:20:38,540 --> 00:20:39,840
Atlas of Creation

1079
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,440
and he has

1080
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,320
TV programs

1081
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,160
in TV channel

1082
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,620
A9

1083
00:20:42,620 --> 00:20:43,340
every night

1084
00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:44,360
every day

1085
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:45,500
2-4 hours

1086
00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:46,760
he talks about

1087
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,580
scientific reputation

1088
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:48,480
of Darwinism

1089
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,120
and political agenda

1090
00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:51,080
and the conflicts

1091
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,920
in the Middle East

1092
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,140
and many other topics

1093
00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:55,160
and he is

1094
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:55,600
the author

1095
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,060
of more than

1096
00:20:56,060 --> 00:20:56,840
300 books

1097
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:57,500
you see some

1098
00:20:57,500 --> 00:20:58,040
over here

1099
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,720
and he has

1100
00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,800
200 documentaries

1101
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,600
and 800 websites

1102
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,220
this is the

1103
00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:03,040
Atlas of Creation

1104
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,340
you see thousands

1105
00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:05,440
of pictures

1106
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:05,980
clothes

1107
00:21:05,980 --> 00:21:08,180
professional photographs

1108
00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:08,480
of the

1109
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,480
pictures of the

1110
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:09,800
fossils

1111
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,420
and in many

1112
00:21:11,420 --> 00:21:12,100
journals

1113
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:12,800
and newspapers

1114
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,500
there has

1115
00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:14,380
been

1116
00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:15,220
articles

1117
00:21:15,220 --> 00:21:15,700
about

1118
00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:16,220
the Atlas

1119
00:21:16,220 --> 00:21:16,740
of Creation

1120
00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:17,220
this is for

1121
00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:17,480
example

1122
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:17,940
from news

1123
00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:18,440
scientists

1124
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,420
Haru Yahya

1125
00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:19,840
Adnan Oktar

1126
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,080
is an

1127
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:20,540
international

1128
00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:20,960
hero

1129
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:21,540
they said

1130
00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:22,340
in 2001

1131
00:21:22,340 --> 00:21:24,400
so

1132
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,020
Adnan Oktar

1133
00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:25,280
est né

1134
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,220
en 1956

1135
00:21:26,220 --> 00:21:27,720
il a le

1136
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,300
très grand

1137
00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:28,700
avantage

1138
00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:29,580
photogénique

1139
00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:30,100
si bien

1140
00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,260
qu'il passe

1141
00:21:31,260 --> 00:21:31,620
très bien

1142
00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:32,240
à la télévision

1143
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,420
il fait

1144
00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:33,760
un grand

1145
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:33,920
nombre

1146
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,260
d'émissions

1147
00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:34,820
télévision

1148
00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:36,780
il se laisse

1149
00:21:36,780 --> 00:21:37,720
facilement

1150
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,160
mettre

1151
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,320
dans les journaux

1152
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,600
donc un grand

1153
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:40,940
nombre

1154
00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:42,540
de journaux

1155
00:21:42,540 --> 00:21:43,120
parlent de lui

1156
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:43,960
parlent de la place

1157
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:44,600
de la création

1158
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,960
parlent de ses

1159
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:46,460
travaux

1160
00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:47,640
donc il y a

1161
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:47,980
même le

1162
00:21:47,980 --> 00:21:49,020
national géomartique

1163
00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:51,700
ces journaux

1164
00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:52,860
sont bien obligés

1165
00:21:52,860 --> 00:21:53,600
de parler

1166
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,780
d'un phénomène

1167
00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:55,400
qui atteint

1168
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,440
une telle dimension

1169
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,820
this again

1170
00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:00,960
from National Geographic

1171
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,160
Islamic creation

1172
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,680
is such as

1173
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,160
Haru Yahya

1174
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,940
Adnan Oktar

1175
00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:04,920
author of a recent

1176
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:05,520
volume titled

1177
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,040
The Evolution

1178
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,440
Deceed

1179
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,300
who calls

1180
00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:07,640
the period

1181
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,080
of evolution

1182
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,500
nothing

1183
00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:09,620
but a deception

1184
00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:10,460
imposed on us

1185
00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:11,320
by the dominators

1186
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:11,860
of the world

1187
00:22:11,860 --> 00:22:12,260
system

1188
00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:13,100
that was from

1189
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:13,980
National Geographic

1190
00:22:13,980 --> 00:22:30,140
you see different

1191
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:31,440
translations of the

1192
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,200
creation atlas

1193
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,920
and thousands of news

1194
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,980
that you see over here

1195
00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:36,700
this is Washington Post

1196
00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:37,440
and Der Spiegel

1197
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,360
The New York Times

1198
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:38,840
Stern

1199
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,820
Economist

1200
00:22:39,820 --> 00:22:40,340
Le Monde

1201
00:22:40,340 --> 00:22:41,740
CBS News

1202
00:22:41,740 --> 00:22:42,820
all of them

1203
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:44,140
talked about

1204
00:22:44,140 --> 00:22:45,100
the office of creation

1205
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:45,920
and its impact

1206
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,740
voilà donc

1207
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:47,960
Haru Yahya

1208
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,860
a su se servir

1209
00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:50,940
de la mode journalistique

1210
00:22:50,940 --> 00:22:51,360
qui fait que

1211
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,240
quand on parle d'un sujet

1212
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,620
tout le monde

1213
00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:53,480
est obligé d'en parler

1214
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,680
évidemment

1215
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,420
là il faut reconnaître

1216
00:22:55,420 --> 00:22:56,300
qu'il y a un savoir-faire

1217
00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:56,980
médiatique

1218
00:22:56,980 --> 00:22:58,900
du côté de nos amis turcs

1219
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:00,980
qui est impressionnant

1220
00:23:00,980 --> 00:23:03,460
donc il s'agit

1221
00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:04,400
vraiment d'une offensive

1222
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,560
d'une offensive

1223
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:06,840
positive

1224
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,120
c'est une offensive

1225
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:09,240
contre l'athéisme

1226
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,040
contre les gens

1227
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:10,880
qui ne croient à rien

1228
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,820
et c'est quelque chose

1229
00:23:12,820 --> 00:23:13,260
qui est quand même

1230
00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:13,580
sanitaire

1231
00:23:13,580 --> 00:23:15,320
some of the

1232
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,900
for example

1233
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:16,780
French newspaper

1234
00:23:16,780 --> 00:23:17,540
says it's like

1235
00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:18,400
an atomic bomb

1236
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,460
some of them

1237
00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:20,420
said it is like

1238
00:23:20,420 --> 00:23:21,180
an earthquake

1239
00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:24,000
la presse française

1240
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,720
dit c'est comme

1241
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,520
une bombe atomique

1242
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,700
ou un tremblement de terre

1243
00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:32,700
next slide please

1244
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:38,780
ok

1245
00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:43,740
he also invited

1246
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:44,780
the prominent

1247
00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:46,040
Richard Dawkins

1248
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:46,540
to Turkey

1249
00:23:46,540 --> 00:23:47,360
for a debate

1250
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:48,560
Mr. Adnan Oktar

1251
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,820
this is from

1252
00:23:49,820 --> 00:23:50,820
the

1253
00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:51,720
in times

1254
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,740
newspaper

1255
00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:53,120
of

1256
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,140
United Kingdom

1257
00:23:54,140 --> 00:23:55,080
that is

1258
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,820
commercial

1259
00:23:55,820 --> 00:23:56,940
advertising

1260
00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:58,300
of Mr. Adnan Oktar

1261
00:23:58,300 --> 00:23:58,700
he said

1262
00:23:58,700 --> 00:23:59,160
a call

1263
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,140
to Richard Dawkins

1264
00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:01,600
Richard Dawkins

1265
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,380
has on many

1266
00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:03,400
previous occasions

1267
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,180
been invited

1268
00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:05,160
to Mr. Adnan Oktar

1269
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,860
Harun Yahya

1270
00:24:05,860 --> 00:24:07,360
to a face-to-face

1271
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:08,180
public debate

1272
00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:09,120
in which the

1273
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:09,920
scientific evidence

1274
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,780
is brought together

1275
00:24:10,780 --> 00:24:11,980
but Dawkins

1276
00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:13,020
has always replied

1277
00:24:13,020 --> 00:24:13,820
I have sworn

1278
00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:14,560
not to debate

1279
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,760
Dawkins

1280
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,300
subsequent

1281
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:17,060
selection

1282
00:24:17,060 --> 00:24:17,680
of secondary

1283
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,660
school students

1284
00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:19,800
an evangelical

1285
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,440
clergy

1286
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:20,980
of debate

1287
00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:21,820
which was

1288
00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:22,580
as attracted

1289
00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:23,780
considerable notice

1290
00:24:23,780 --> 00:24:24,180
however

1291
00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:25,700
in other words

1292
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:26,920
he has no excuse

1293
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,620
or explanation

1294
00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:28,400
for not taking

1295
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,080
part in such

1296
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:29,540
a debate

1297
00:24:29,540 --> 00:24:30,400
therefore

1298
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,180
once again

1299
00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:32,040
Mr. Adnan Oktar

1300
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,160
invites Richard Dawkins

1301
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,440
to a face-to-face

1302
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:34,820
debate

1303
00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:35,320
accompanied

1304
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,760
by the

1305
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,580
scientific evidence

1306
00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:37,120
but he

1307
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:37,920
escaped again

1308
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,980
Dawkins

1309
00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:41,100
c'est un biologiste

1310
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:41,640
d'Oxford

1311
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,740
qui est très connu

1312
00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:43,080
dans le monde

1313
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,740
anglo-saxon

1314
00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:44,940
dont les livres

1315
00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:45,460
sont traduits

1316
00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:45,800
en français

1317
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,220
bien sûr

1318
00:24:46,220 --> 00:24:47,100
c'est un athée

1319
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:47,960
convaincu

1320
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,440
qui est extrêmement

1321
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,020
agressif

1322
00:24:51,020 --> 00:24:51,500
en fait

1323
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:52,880
dans sa critique

1324
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:53,880
en particulier

1325
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,900
des anti-évolutionnistes

1326
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:55,620
et

1327
00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:56,760
Adnan Oktar

1328
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,960
a défié

1329
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,340
Dawkins

1330
00:24:59,340 --> 00:24:59,760
de

1331
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,060
débattre avec lui

1332
00:25:02,060 --> 00:25:03,160
et Dawkins

1333
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,660
comme

1334
00:25:03,660 --> 00:25:05,260
le font

1335
00:25:05,260 --> 00:25:05,560
d'ailleurs

1336
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,440
les évolutionnistes

1337
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:06,960
américains

1338
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,860
dans cette série

1339
00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:08,160
c'est la même chose

1340
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:08,920
c'est la même tactique

1341
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,260
partout

1342
00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:10,080
en fait

1343
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,180
on refuse le débat

1344
00:25:11,180 --> 00:25:14,080
en considérant

1345
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:14,540
que

1346
00:25:14,540 --> 00:25:17,020
l'opposant

1347
00:25:17,020 --> 00:25:18,040
n'est pas digne

1348
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,060
du débat

1349
00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:20,680
mais le résultat

1350
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:20,920
c'est que

1351
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,580
le débat n'a pas lieu

1352
00:25:21,580 --> 00:25:22,360
donc l'échange

1353
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:23,200
d'argument n'a pas lieu

1354
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,300
qui est quand même

1355
00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:26,400
une solution

1356
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:26,980
un peu facile

1357
00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:29,340
d'argument zit

1358
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:34,720
Mais c'est le prix de l'offre

1359
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,000
par référent Darwinism.

1360
00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:38,400
Muslin creationist Adnan Oktar

1361
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800
challenges scientists to prove evolution.

1362
00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:42,720
Almost 100 million

1363
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,440
fossils have been unearthed so far.

1364
00:25:44,780 --> 00:25:46,280
All of these show that plants,

1365
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,600
animals, humans and insects have never

1366
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,380
undergone evolution whatsoever.

1367
00:25:50,860 --> 00:25:52,540
And they were all created in the same way

1368
00:25:52,540 --> 00:25:54,500
by God. We can see this fact

1369
00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:55,840
in each fossil we come across.

1370
00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:58,180
There is no fossil proving the contrary.

1371
00:25:58,180 --> 00:25:59,920
If they can't show one,

1372
00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:02,640
I will reward them 1 trillion Turkish lirat.

1373
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,660
This is 4.4 trillion pounds.

1374
00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:08,800
Or about 7 million American dollars.

1375
00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:10,100
I don't know how many euros it is.

1376
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,260
I had to calculate.

1377
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
So that was about 4 years ago.

1378
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,940
You know what happened? Nobody has appeared.

1379
00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:19,000
Because there is not even a single transitional form.

1380
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,080
Creationist Adnan Oktar offers

1381
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,900
trillion pound price for the fossil

1382
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:25,180
proof of evolution. This is in telegraph, for example.

1383
00:26:26,020 --> 00:26:26,800
You see in telegraph,

1384
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,220
the creationist Adnan Oktar offers

1385
00:26:28,220 --> 00:26:30,980
trillion pound price for fossil proof of evolution.

1386
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,920
This is another newspaper.

1387
00:26:33,140 --> 00:26:34,980
It says about this price

1388
00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:36,700
for a single transitional form.

1389
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:38,660
Well, there is the challenge of the debate.

1390
00:26:38,660 --> 00:26:42,160
And then, there is a challenge of the price

1391
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,380
for the possible transition

1392
00:26:46,380 --> 00:26:49,080
or the price of the fabuleux

1393
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,040
which offers absolutely no risk

1394
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,340
for the people who propose to pay it.

1395
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,840
Because there is a chance,

1396
00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:58,260
there is no reason for it

1397
00:26:58,260 --> 00:27:00,920
that we obtain the proof of evolution.

1398
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:10,920
So nobody has appeared.

1399
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,760
That means no transitional forms.

1400
00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:14,060
No evolution.

1401
00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:15,480
Well, because no one has responded

1402
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:15,980
to the office,

1403
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:17,860
it's good that there is no form of transition.

1404
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,360
Because if we call them

1405
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:19,940
for the missing people,

1406
00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:21,240
it's good because they are missing people.

1407
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:33,240
This is in Rotterdam, Poland.

1408
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:34,960
Announcement of Haru Yahya,

1409
00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:36,320
you will see on the bosses,

1410
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,260
God,

1411
00:27:37,420 --> 00:27:40,640
God bestad,

1412
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,460
that means God exists

1413
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,080
and with his pictures

1414
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,100
and his books

1415
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,160
on the bosses,

1416
00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:46,860
many bosses

1417
00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,140
in Rotterdam.

1418
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,660
God exists.

1419
00:27:49,660 --> 00:27:53,500
So, in other than the classic media,

1420
00:27:53,620 --> 00:27:55,540
there are also techniques of editing

1421
00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:59,460
on buses,

1422
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,220
God exists.

1423
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Well, it's obviously more American

1424
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,440
than French.

1425
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:08,360
So, it exists.

1426
00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:11,500
It's a place to say that God exists.

1427
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:22,840
In many buses that has been in the city

1428
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,700
for many days,

1429
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,700
they have been traveling,

1430
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,380
these buses.

1431
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,860
So, it's been a long time.

1432
00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:31,900
Okay.

1433
00:28:32,420 --> 00:28:33,560
And this is from London,

1434
00:28:33,820 --> 00:28:35,040
United Kingdom, London,

1435
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,800
and London, United Kingdom.

1436
00:28:37,220 --> 00:28:39,080
Modern science declares God exists

1437
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,700
on the bosses.

1438
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,720
You see many bosses

1439
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,920
for many days,

1440
00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:43,440
they traveled in London,

1441
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,220
God exists.

1442
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,460
Modern science demonstrates

1443
00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:46,340
that God exists.

1444
00:28:46,340 --> 00:29:05,800
And this is from the humanist,

1445
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,400
comment by a new humanist.

1446
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,960
islamic creationist,

1447
00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:10,560
Adnan Oktar launches

1448
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,660
London bus campaign,

1449
00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:12,080
it says.

1450
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:14,020
There is not really a great deal

1451
00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:15,720
to say about the ads themselves,

1452
00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:17,540
other than that they say

1453
00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:18,740
modern science demonstrates

1454
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,500
that God exists,

1455
00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:20,120
new humanist,

1456
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:21,460
in the 80s magazine.

1457
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,460
And this is a great deal.

1458
00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:22,860
And this is very interesting.

1459
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:23,660
New humanist,

1460
00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:24,000
it's a great deal.

1461
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,060
It's a great deal,

1462
00:29:24,060 --> 00:29:24,460
but it's a great deal.

1463
00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:24,840
It's a great deal.

1464
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,840
and it's a great deal.

1465
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,520
It's a great deal.

1466
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,920
It's a great deal.

1467
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:38,040
Pour que ma réaction à cette campagne d'affiches sur les musulmans, on dit qu'il n'y a pas grand chose à dire au propos de ces affiches,

1468
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:43,820
si ce n'est qu'elles disent la science moderne des contre-cudiosistes. Voilà les arguments en réponse.

1469
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,740
En France, again, please.

1470
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,860
Okay, this is going to show Australia, for example, Melbourne, Australia, the conferences we did in Australia,

1471
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:15,180
Sydney Community Hall, you see in Azerbaijan, Baku, Azerbaijan,

1472
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,960
the conferences we did about against Darwinism, scientific gravitation of Darwinism and the fact of creation.

1473
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:27,960
Many conferences over the years, over more than 10 years, in Africa, for example,

1474
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Al-Badi School, Cape Town, Africa, you see the conferences we did.

1475
00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:40,720
Melbourne, Africa, Johannesburg, Africa, conferences we did.

1476
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:47,820
And then this is from Brunei, another country, China, Islamic Union, China, Indonesia,

1477
00:30:48,340 --> 00:30:51,760
Andalas University, Indonesia, that we did conferences in Indonesia, you see.

1478
00:30:51,960 --> 00:31:00,860
This is Indonesia conferences, many times, not only once, these are only samples from them in Indonesia.

1479
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:06,260
France, for example, in Lyon, France, these conferences we did in France.

1480
00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:17,040
Marseille Conference, Paris, you see, the conferences over here in France.

1481
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:24,480
And the fast exhibitions that you see, these are the fast exhibitions we did, Strasbourg, France.

1482
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:31,960
But it's certain that there, there is a very important thing, it's that in the mosquets français,

1483
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,900
if we are anti-darmenian, we are musulman, we ask to make an exposition possible,

1484
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680
or to make an conference, we can do it.

1485
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:44,600
So there is a very big dissimetry on this point, if you will,

1486
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:53,380
between the position of the anti-évolutionists in the Christian world who is intellectually preoccupied by the Armenians,

1487
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:59,100
and who feels immediately the danger to all the information.

1488
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:06,400
In the world musulman, for reasons which would be interesting to deepen, which are a lot of things,

1489
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:11,300
we don't have these same immediate reactions of barriers.

1490
00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:21,340
Maybe because the liens between intellect and the piété are not the same in Islam and in the Christianism.

1491
00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:27,340
And the teyardism has really invested in the theology contemporaine,

1492
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:32,240
so that the people who would like to renounce the evolutionism

1493
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,620
are led to their own religion.

1494
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,780
Because they were told that it was true, they had adapted their faith in religion to the evolution,

1495
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,220
and so to return to the evolution, for them, it will change the whole world.

1496
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:50,780
So it's a secret, and to prove that it's something that we can demand for years.

1497
00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:55,880
And, of course, we don't see this kind of barrier in Islam.

1498
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,840
You see, conferences are still going on.

1499
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:01,720
I did more than a thousand conferences,

1500
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:05,300
but colleagues Saddam also had more than a thousand conferences all over the world.

1501
00:33:06,580 --> 00:33:10,600
So this is again in France, the French conferences that Saddam did.

1502
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,100
Actually, these are the Fast Leg Book exhibitions,

1503
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:16,160
and the Gymnasium Maribel Theater.

1504
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,600
Non, c'était une premièrement donnée par Alissa Levengin,

1505
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:24,760
qui est parmi nous, l'autre Turc, voilà, qui est renais ici.

1506
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,720
And this is from Vatican.

1507
00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:33,820
I was in Vatican.

1508
00:33:34,660 --> 00:33:39,060
The Vatican organized the Diatinist conferences in Rome in 2009.

1509
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,680
They did not accept creationists.

1510
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,060
We applied to be, as a speaker, from creationist perspective.

1511
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,840
You know, Vatican is a Christian center, center of Christianity.

1512
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,380
So they should be organizing the conference with atheists,

1513
00:33:54,540 --> 00:33:56,300
who denies the existence of God.

1514
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560
And at least they should let the creationists in this conference

1515
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,700
give them scientific evidence which is futileism.

1516
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,920
But they rejected it.

1517
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,560
They said to us,

1518
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:08,240
you can come and you can ask questions in the scientific discussion part.

1519
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:31,580
So I went there with a friend of mine who was recording the video.

1520
00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:32,540
So I was asked,

1521
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,200
I raised my hand to ask a question.

1522
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,460
They asked me to come to the microphone.

1523
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:38,320
There were like a thousand people,

1524
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:39,200
all Darwinists.

1525
00:34:39,380 --> 00:34:42,520
And the 15 most prominent Darwinists of the world were sitting there,

1526
00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:44,000
including Douglas Futuma,

1527
00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:45,660
Francisco Ayala,

1528
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:47,640
and Lynn Margulis,

1529
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,340
many Simon Convey-Morris.

1530
00:34:50,340 --> 00:34:53,400
most Darwinists were in this room.

1531
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,820
So there were about 3,000 people.

1532
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,080
It was really a great international conference.

1533
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,080
And especially in the intervenants,

1534
00:35:00,220 --> 00:35:03,460
Futuma and Francisco Ayala,

1535
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,400
who are very, very famous evolutionists.

1536
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,160
And so,

1537
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:09,800
Oktar Valmuna

1538
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,480
gave his hand to ask a question.

1539
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,620
He approached the microphone.

1540
00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:15,800
I'm sorry.

1541
00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:18,640
Can I show you a video, please?

1542
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,860
It's not a mini-like sound,

1543
00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:21,040
but it's a sound of a video.

1544
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,600
I can do it with the microphone.

1545
00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:25,620
Well, apparently,

1546
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,800
they were two,

1547
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,680
so the other filmed the incident,

1548
00:35:31,820 --> 00:35:32,440
as you will see,

1549
00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:34,880
and as there is the sound,

1550
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,840
we're trying to project the sound

1551
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,700
in the same time as the image.

1552
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,880
Well, I remember very well

1553
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,000
having seen this episode

1554
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
on Rutteur at the time,

1555
00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:44,960
because it was quite interesting.

1556
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,200
But on the other hand,

1557
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,020
it was innovative,

1558
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:50,740
because what I saw on the internet,

1559
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:52,420
and so I didn't understand,

1560
00:35:52,740 --> 00:35:53,020
I didn't understand,

1561
00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:55,980
I didn't understand what questions

1562
00:35:55,980 --> 00:35:56,540
they were asking.

1563
00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:58,540
Well,

1564
00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:28,520
Quel est ça ?

1565
00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:42,840
Donc je répète, on est dans une conférence internationale de grand niveau.

1566
00:36:58,540 --> 00:37:00,540
...

1567
00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:02,540
...

1568
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:04,540
...

1569
00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:08,540
...

1570
00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:14,540
...

1571
00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:16,540
...

1572
00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:18,540
...

1573
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:20,540
...

1574
00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:26,540
...

1575
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:28,540
...

1576
00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:30,540
...

1577
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:32,540
...

1578
00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:34,540
...

1579
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:36,540
...

1580
00:37:36,540 --> 00:37:38,540
...

1581
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:40,540
...

1582
00:37:40,540 --> 00:37:42,540
...

1583
00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:44,540
...

1584
00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:48,540
...

1585
00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:54,540
...

1586
00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:58,540
...

1587
00:37:58,540 --> 00:38:00,540
...

1588
00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:02,540
...

1589
00:38:02,540 --> 00:38:04,540
...

1590
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:06,540
...

1591
00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:26,540
...

1592
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:40,540
...

1593
00:38:40,540 --> 00:38:44,540
...

1594
00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:46,540
...

1595
00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:48,540
...

1596
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:50,540
...

1597
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:52,540
...

1598
00:38:52,540 --> 00:38:54,540
...

1599
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:58,540
...

1600
00:38:58,540 --> 00:39:00,540
...

1601
00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:02,540
...

1602
00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:04,540
...

1603
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:14,540
...

1604
00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:16,540
...

1605
00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:18,540
...

1606
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:28,540
...

1607
00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:30,540
...

1608
00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:32,540
...

1609
00:39:32,540 --> 00:39:34,540
...

1610
00:39:34,540 --> 00:39:40,540
...

1611
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:42,540
...

1612
00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:44,540
...

1613
00:39:44,540 --> 00:39:46,540
...

1614
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:48,540
...

1615
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:50,540
...

1616
00:39:50,540 --> 00:39:52,540
...

1617
00:39:52,540 --> 00:39:54,540
...

1618
00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:56,540
...

1619
00:39:56,540 --> 00:39:58,540
...

1620
00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:00,540
...

1621
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:02,540
...

1622
00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:08,540
...

1623
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:12,540
...

1624
00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:14,540
...

1625
00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:16,540
...

1626
00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:18,540
...

1627
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:20,540
...

1628
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:22,540
...

1629
00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:24,540
...

1630
00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:26,540
...

1631
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:28,540
...

1632
00:40:28,540 --> 00:40:30,540
...

1633
00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:32,540
...

1634
00:40:32,540 --> 00:41:02,540


1635
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:06,540
de

1636
00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:08,540
...

1637
00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:10,540
...

1638
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:14,540
...

1639
00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:16,540
...

1640
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:20,540
...

1641
00:41:20,540 --> 00:41:22,540
...

1642
00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:24,540
...

1643
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:26,540
...

1644
00:41:26,540 --> 00:41:27,540
...

1645
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:28,540
...

1646
00:41:28,540 --> 00:41:30,540
...

1647
00:41:30,540 --> 00:41:33,660
Donc le droit à la virilité fait partie de toute humiliation.

1648
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:09,300
Alors donc évidemment, il n'y avait pas de réponse à l'argument, il ne pouvait pas y avoir de réponse.

1649
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:20,340
Ce qu'il n'avait pas vu, c'est toujours, c'est qu'il y avait le Ganarad qui filmait l'incident, et la vidéo a été transmise à l'agence Reuters un peu après.

1650
00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:25,140
Évidemment ça, les organisateurs n'avaient pas vu venir.

1651
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:30,140
Et Reuters said, the conference in Vatican is being very anti-democratic.

1652
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:36,140
Donc par exemple, la conférence du Vatican est tout à fait anti-évacité.

1653
00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:41,140
OK.

1654
00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:45,140
One minute, on finit.

1655
00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:47,140
One minute, OK.

1656
00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:52,140
And other works of Harajah has of March 2011, Abu Proudes.

1657
00:42:52,140 --> 00:43:00,140
All the newspapers talk about the works of Harajah, Atlas of Creation, and the bloat against Darwinism.

1658
00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:07,140
And in 50 countries, his books are sold in the bookstores.

1659
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:20,140
And he has live lectures on four simultaneous translations, English, French, German and Russian, in TV Channel A9.

1660
00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:22,140
You can watch it in the website.

1661
00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:27,140
If you go to harunyahia.com or this website, click on that.

1662
00:43:27,140 --> 00:43:33,140
You can watch his TV programs live in English, French, German or Russian.

1663
00:43:33,140 --> 00:43:47,140
These programs are being followed by about 30 million people that are watching his TV programs.

1664
00:43:47,140 --> 00:43:52,140
Not only in Turkey, in Europe, in the US, in Far East, in the Middle East, and Russia.

1665
00:43:52,140 --> 00:44:07,140
And by the view of Allah, the complete works of Harajah will continue to increase the fervour and enthusiasm in the world,

1666
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:13,140
and call people to Islam in the 21st century, to religion in the 21st century.

1667
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:42,140
Yes, yes.

1668
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:55,580
Donc, à titre de conclusion, par la volonté d'Allah, l'ensemble des travaux d'Hermoun Yahya

1669
00:44:55,580 --> 00:45:00,620
va continuer à se diffuser et à augmenter la ferveur et l'enthousiasme dans le monde

1670
00:45:00,620 --> 00:45:06,300
et à fer le monde à l'islam pour le XXIe siècle.

1671
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:10,100
Donc, c'est la conclusion de notre ami Hector Babouna, ce n'est pas le cas d'hier.

1672
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:16,840
Alors, c'est le temps pour notre alliance, muslims, chrétiens et jews,

1673
00:45:16,940 --> 00:45:20,540
qui s'est venu ensemble comme ceci, et qui s'est venu contre l'arminisme,

1674
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:28,120
et la bonne morale, la religion de trois religions, compassion, mercy, love, tolerance et justice,

1675
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:36,100
qui s'est venu à l'intérieur de l'Hermon, entre l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon.

1676
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,340
Donc, notre alliance est très importante.

1677
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:43,840
Nous aimons les chrétiens, nous aimons les gens de l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon.

1678
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,980
Allah dit que les monastres, les chrétiens, les synagogues et les mosques sont des places pour être protégés.

1679
00:45:49,980 --> 00:46:12,460
Donc, pour ce 21e siècle, avec nous qui attendons le retour de Jésus et de Nazie, nous espérons un monde de tolérance, d'entraide, dans lequel il y aura charité réciproque, protection de tous les lieux de culte, évidemment, c'est ce monde que nous souhaitons réaliser avec vous.

1680
00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:17,360
Et merci beaucoup, c'était un plaisir et un honneur d'être ici.

1681
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Encore une fois, nous vous invitons à la Turquie.

1682
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,160
Merci beaucoup.

1683
00:46:42,460 --> 00:46:47,800
Je remercie les intervenants de votre présentation, qui est toujours impressionnante.

1684
00:46:48,140 --> 00:47:02,380
Alors, effectivement, être anti-évolutionniste, c'est bien et c'est la vérité sur la Terre, mais pour aller au ciel, le problème, vous avez parlé beaucoup de Dieu et de Jésus,

1685
00:47:02,380 --> 00:47:18,040
mais Dieu, bon, que je sache, c'est la très sainte Trinité, Dieu est esprit et notre Seigneur s'est incarné, le Verbe de Dieu, la deuxième personne de la très sainte Trinité, Jésus.

1686
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:26,220
Quand j'ai entendu, quand j'ai entendu le premier interlocuteur dire que Jésus n'était pas mort, Jésus est mort sur la croix pour sauver tous les hommes,

1687
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:33,840
et il reviendra juger les vivants et les morts, et il sera précédé de la sainte croix que vous avez derrière vous.

1688
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:45,020
Et la troisième personne de la très sainte Trinité, c'est le Saint-Esprit qui est le Dieu d'amour, le fruit d'amour du Père et du Fils, qui sème réciproquement.

1689
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:52,020
Donc, le problème, est-ce que la charité sans la vérité est possible ?

1690
00:47:52,780 --> 00:48:00,020
Je pense que notre action est démontrée dans l'Évangile, qui est le livre qu'a laissé notre Seigneur.

1691
00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:10,960
Lorsque la maison est bâtie sur du sable, les flots peuvent passer et repasser, et la maison est emportée.

1692
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Or, l'Europe sur laquelle est bâtie la vérité, c'est le Christ, Jésus-Christ, qui est Dieu, et qui est le Seigneur au ciel.

1693
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:23,740
Voilà.

1694
00:48:24,860 --> 00:48:32,500
En tout cas, je vous remercie, c'était très impressionnant, et très courageux d'aller au Vatican, dans l'ombre du lion.

1695
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:47,720
Je n'ai pas entendu tout ce qui passe. Ce que j'ai pu comprendre, c'est que notre ami, là, a fait remarquer qu'il y a une limite,

1696
00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:54,960
j'en suppose, à la collaboration possible entre les chrétiens et les musulmans, et ça paraît inévident.

1697
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:01,400
Mais, comme je l'ai expliqué, alors malheureusement, le micro-baladeur ne marche pas,

1698
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:07,300
donc je demande à ceux qui veulent poser la question de venir ici, et on est obligé de faire comme ça.

1699
00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:17,820
Et, alors, si c'est possible, il y a le problème de la langue, je regrette que le Seigneur d'Unenguin soit parti,

1700
00:49:17,820 --> 00:49:26,820
parce que là, c'est très compliqué, il est évident que le Seigneur n'a pas de mission pour promouvoir

1701
00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:30,240
quelques religions, tout soit d'ailleurs, si ce n'est le christianisme,

1702
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:36,740
mais le but de cette présentation, je l'ai expliqué au début, c'était de vous apporter une information de première main

1703
00:49:36,740 --> 00:49:43,920
sur un phénomène important qui se déroule aujourd'hui, au début du XXIe siècle, en islam.

1704
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,380
Maintenant, vous êtes assez grande pour penser par vous-même.

1705
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:50,320
Très bien.

1706
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,420
Oui, une question, rassurez-vous, très brève et très précise.

1707
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Notre orateur a fait allusion au fait qu'en Iran, l'évolutionnisme relevait, pour ainsi dire, de la doctrine officielle.

1708
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:12,260
Je voudrais savoir si c'est spécifique à l'Iran, ou bien, si ça n'est pas spécifique, plus largement, à l'islam chiïsque.

1709
00:50:12,260 --> 00:50:17,380
Et dans l'hypothèse où ça le serait, j'aimerais en connaître la raison.

1710
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:18,500
Voilà.

1711
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:27,500
Donc, c'est bien, c'est une étude marxiste qui n'a...

1712
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:36,860
Oui, mais est-ce que c'est marxiste éducation, développée en Iran, parce que c'est un pays shiite, et non un senate?

1713
00:50:36,860 --> 00:50:37,860
Non, c'est marxiste.

1714
00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:38,860
Non, c'est marxiste.

1715
00:50:38,860 --> 00:50:39,860
Non, c'est marxiste.

1716
00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:40,860
Non, c'est marxiste.

1717
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:41,860
Non, c'est marxiste.

1718
00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:42,860
Non, c'est marxiste.

1719
00:50:42,860 --> 00:50:43,860
Non, c'est marxiste.

1720
00:50:43,860 --> 00:50:44,860
C'est marxiste.

1721
00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:47,860
Le gouvernement est controlé par un marxiste deep state structure.

1722
00:50:47,860 --> 00:50:49,860
Et ce qui est contrôlée.

1723
00:50:49,860 --> 00:50:52,860
Il y a beaucoup de résistance avec Darwinisme.

1724
00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:57,860
Par exemple, si vous n'avez pas de conférence ou une intellectuelle struggle contre Darwinisme,

1725
00:50:57,860 --> 00:50:59,860
le state ne vous résiste.

1726
00:50:59,860 --> 00:51:04,860
Parce que le marxisme est une structure deep state structure qui contrôle le state.

1727
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:07,860
Donc, le marxiste contrôle l'Iran.

1728
00:51:07,860 --> 00:51:09,860
Oui, en réalité, c'est une apparition intéressant.

1729
00:51:09,860 --> 00:51:14,860
Donc, la structure de pouvoir profonde en Iran n'est pas une structure shiite du tout.

1730
00:51:14,860 --> 00:51:16,860
C'est une structure marxiste.

1731
00:51:16,860 --> 00:51:23,860
Et donc, le darwinisme est utilisé comme idéologie d'État, comme dans tous les pays marxistes, et imposé à tout le monde.

1732
00:51:23,860 --> 00:51:28,860
Parce que ça n'est pas en apparence, bien sûr, c'est un pays shiite, et on met toujours la religion en avant.

1733
00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:32,860
Mais la structure de pouvoir en Iran est une structure marxiste.

1734
00:51:32,860 --> 00:51:36,860
Mais en Europe, de l'Iran, dans les pays musulmans, quoi ?

1735
00:51:36,860 --> 00:51:51,860
In other countries than Iran, without this deep power, is it the same ?

1736
00:51:51,860 --> 00:51:52,860
Yes.

1737
00:51:52,860 --> 00:52:04,860
Darwinism is being found in the schools in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Algeria, in Syria, in Iraq, in all the countries, even in Turkey.

1738
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:06,860
Darwinism is still being found in the schools.

1739
00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:17,860
But, with the works of Mr. Harun Yahya, according to most recent polls, we did thousands of conferences and millions of booklets were distributed free of charge on the street in Turkey.

1740
00:52:17,860 --> 00:52:23,860
Although Darwinism is still being found in the schools, 95% of the Turkish people do not believe in Darwinism anymore.

1741
00:52:23,860 --> 00:52:26,860
And this was done by Darwinist media, not by us.

1742
00:52:26,860 --> 00:52:34,860
And so, what is interesting, is that the Darwinism is taught in schools in all countries, like the Maghreb, the Groove-Orient, etc.

1743
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:38,860
So, they are musulmans, so it is not appropriate to Iran.

1744
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:47,860
But, by the way, thanks to the activity of Darwinism, the population has access to today an information anti-darwinian.

1745
00:52:47,860 --> 00:52:53,860
And we arrive at this point where, in Turkey, 90% of people do not believe in Darwinism anymore.

1746
00:52:53,860 --> 00:53:06,860
Yes, so, is it human or divine?

1747
00:53:06,860 --> 00:53:07,860
Yes.

1748
00:53:07,860 --> 00:53:14,860
So, the question, Jesus will come back, so will he be human or divine?

1749
00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:25,860
Well, according to hadiths, the sayings of the Prophet, signs given by our Prophet about the end times, they have all happened.

1750
00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:30,860
That means, Jesus, peace be upon him, must have returned, must be alive.

1751
00:53:30,860 --> 00:53:33,860
But we know he will be keep secret at the beginning.

1752
00:53:33,860 --> 00:53:38,860
But the time is coming that all the entire world will see him, will embrace him.

1753
00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:41,860
Jesus will be, he is a Prophet, will love and respect him very much.

1754
00:53:41,860 --> 00:53:44,860
The entire, he will bring peace to the entire world.

1755
00:53:44,860 --> 00:53:45,860
And these times are coming.

1756
00:53:45,860 --> 00:53:50,860
According to Quran, he is a Prophet of Allah, so he is human.

1757
00:53:50,860 --> 00:53:55,860
Yes, well, the question was not useful for the Muslims.

1758
00:53:55,860 --> 00:53:56,860
He is not God.

1759
00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:58,860
He is not God, so he is not God.

1760
00:53:58,860 --> 00:53:59,860
Neither before nor after.

1761
00:53:59,860 --> 00:54:03,860
But he is a messenger, he is a prophet of importance.

1762
00:54:03,860 --> 00:54:09,860
Did Allah create the devil?

1763
00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:12,860
Did Allah create the devil?

1764
00:54:12,860 --> 00:54:16,860
Yes, Allah created Satan and Satan is under control of Allah.

1765
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:24,860
And the lower soul in humans are, according to Quran, Allah says, the lower soul, it's called Nehs in Arabic, is created by Allah.

1766
00:54:24,860 --> 00:54:36,860
Which is, for example, in the lower soul, everybody has the features of selfishness, being egoistic, for example, being jealous, being a tyrant.

1767
00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:49,860
But what we need to do is, for the test, we need to control ourselves, press, crush this lower soul, and have it a good faith, and follow, obey the rules of Allah, the revelations.

1768
00:54:49,860 --> 00:54:51,860
So, follow the good morality.

1769
00:54:51,860 --> 00:54:53,860
And then we will pass this test.

1770
00:54:53,860 --> 00:54:54,860
This is part of the test.

1771
00:54:54,860 --> 00:54:57,860
So, Satan is the program of the examination.

1772
00:54:57,860 --> 00:54:59,860
Part of the examination.

1773
00:54:59,860 --> 00:55:02,860
And then we will expose the problem.

1774
00:55:02,860 --> 00:55:07,860
But, indeed, it's God who created the demon.

1775
00:55:07,860 --> 00:55:09,860
But this is a very important point.

1776
00:55:09,860 --> 00:55:13,860
It's God who created the evil side of the human being.

1777
00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:16,860
And so, we are on earth.

1778
00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:20,860
We have a good one who leads us to the evil, to the violence, etc.

1779
00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:21,860
To the egoistic.

1780
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:22,860
And we have a good one.

1781
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:28,860
And God is there, observe our efforts towards the good.

1782
00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:34,860
And, at the end, he will judge the people, the good or the bad, in terms of what they have done,

1783
00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:37,860
in terms of the fight they have made against their own children.

1784
00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:39,860
But, this is a fundamental point.

1785
00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:44,860
So, we will have a lot of time to talk about it.

1786
00:55:44,860 --> 00:55:47,860
But, we have talked about it.

1787
00:55:47,860 --> 00:55:49,860
We have talked about it yesterday.

1788
00:55:49,860 --> 00:55:55,860
Because I believe that the difference between the christianism and what I have heard of the Islam,

1789
00:55:55,860 --> 00:55:58,860
is the fact that this bad side of the human being,

1790
00:55:58,860 --> 00:56:02,860
which is the bad side of the human being,

1791
00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:04,860
which is a notion of the ludic,

1792
00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:06,860
is created by God.

1793
00:56:06,860 --> 00:56:08,860
And that's the big difference.

1794
00:56:08,860 --> 00:56:16,860
And that's why the first passage of Jesus is not a passage of redemption,

1795
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:19,860
because there is no need to be redemption.

1796
00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:24,860
So, we have, when we have a very profound difference in the religious faith.

1797
00:56:24,860 --> 00:56:31,860
Of course, we were not here to examine these questions theologians.

1798
00:56:31,860 --> 00:56:36,860
So, I think that we will stop.

1799
00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:37,860
Because it is 4 hours 20.

1800
00:56:37,860 --> 00:56:39,860
Normally, the pause.

1801
00:56:39,860 --> 00:56:40,860
And two other questions.

1802
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:41,860
One question.

1803
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:51,860
Who paid the diffusion ?

1804
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:53,860
Who paid the diffusion ?

1805
00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:54,860
Who paid the diffusion ?

1806
00:56:54,860 --> 00:56:55,860
Yeah.

1807
00:56:55,860 --> 00:56:59,860
And we are several hundred, about 300 people.

1808
00:56:59,860 --> 00:57:03,860
Friends of Mr. Harun Yahya, Mr. Adnan Oktar.

1809
00:57:03,860 --> 00:57:05,860
Many of us have business.

1810
00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:07,860
They have their own companies.

1811
00:57:07,860 --> 00:57:09,860
And some of them have factories.

1812
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:10,860
So, we make money.

1813
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:13,860
And we spend in the way of God.

1814
00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:15,860
Because Darwinism is very urgent.

1815
00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:18,860
That is the reason why our unity is so important.

1816
00:57:18,860 --> 00:57:19,860
We unite.

1817
00:57:19,860 --> 00:57:21,860
Because we have the same goal.

1818
00:57:21,860 --> 00:57:22,860
Common goal.

1819
00:57:22,860 --> 00:57:23,860
What is that ?

1820
00:57:23,860 --> 00:57:27,860
To eradicate intellectually these atheistic philosophies,

1821
00:57:27,860 --> 00:57:28,860
which are the cause of the corruption.

1822
00:57:28,860 --> 00:57:33,860
And this will bring the religious morality to the entire world.

1823
00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:35,860
And so, we spend our money.

1824
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:37,860
And we pay for the efforts of creation.

1825
00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:39,860
We don't accept any donations.

1826
00:57:39,860 --> 00:57:44,860
So, the Harun Yahya does not receive any donations.

1827
00:57:44,860 --> 00:57:48,860
There are between 300 and 700 people,

1828
00:57:48,860 --> 00:57:50,860
who are companies, etc.,

1829
00:57:50,860 --> 00:57:52,860
who are businesses,

1830
00:57:52,860 --> 00:57:57,860
and who, of course, give their money for the association.

1831
00:57:57,860 --> 00:58:01,860
So, that is what the force of the association is.

1832
00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:02,860
It is free.

1833
00:58:02,860 --> 00:58:03,860
It is free.

1834
00:58:03,860 --> 00:58:04,860
Let me...

1835
00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:06,860
Mr. Adnan Oktar never makes,

1836
00:58:06,860 --> 00:58:09,860
not even a single cent from his books.

1837
00:58:09,860 --> 00:58:10,860
He never makes money.

1838
00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:13,860
He spent his all money, actually, for his books,

1839
00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:14,860
distributing his books.

1840
00:58:14,860 --> 00:58:17,860
He never accepts any money from his books.

1841
00:58:17,860 --> 00:58:19,860
Because according to the Quran, it's unlawful.

1842
00:58:19,860 --> 00:58:22,860
For spreading the message, the religion,

1843
00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:24,860
you cannot earn money from that.

1844
00:58:36,860 --> 00:58:38,860
It's not the goal of the operation.

1845
00:58:38,860 --> 00:58:39,860
And it's...

1846
00:58:39,860 --> 00:58:41,860
And it's contrary, if you want,

1847
00:58:41,860 --> 00:58:42,860
you'll recall the view of the Quran.

1848
00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:44,860
Ecoutez, I know...

1849
00:58:44,860 --> 00:58:45,860
We could talk a long time.

1850
00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:47,860
There are a lot of points that we haven't aborded.

1851
00:58:47,860 --> 00:58:48,860
I don't want to...

1852
00:58:48,860 --> 00:58:50,860
I don't want to...

1853
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:51,860
Oh, it's not a question?

1854
00:58:51,860 --> 00:58:52,860
It's just something to say

1855
00:58:52,860 --> 00:58:55,860
about the Vatican,

1856
00:58:55,860 --> 00:58:56,860
in Holland,

1857
00:58:56,860 --> 00:58:58,860
it's been the same thing.

1858
00:58:58,860 --> 00:58:59,860
It's a tremblement of the earth.

1859
00:58:59,860 --> 00:59:00,860
It's one minute.

1860
00:59:00,860 --> 00:59:04,860
One minute of 60 seconds.

1861
00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:07,860
In 2005,

1862
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:08,860
in the Pays-Bas,

1863
00:59:08,860 --> 00:59:11,860
it's happened what I would call a tremblement of the earth creationist.

1864
00:59:11,860 --> 00:59:12,860
The minister,

1865
00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:14,860
who is a woman, Maria van der Rufen,

1866
00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:15,860
in 2005,

1867
00:59:15,860 --> 00:59:17,860
who is the minister of the Culture,

1868
00:59:17,860 --> 00:59:18,860
the minister of the Ensignments

1869
00:59:18,860 --> 00:59:20,860
and the minister of the Science,

1870
00:59:20,860 --> 00:59:22,860
said that we have to teach

1871
00:59:22,860 --> 00:59:23,860
at the same level

1872
00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:24,860
the creationism

1873
00:59:24,860 --> 00:59:26,860
and the Darwinism,

1874
00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:28,860
since we don't respond to all these questions.

1875
00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:30,860
At the assembly,

1876
00:59:30,860 --> 00:59:31,860
at the A.

1877
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:34,860
It was really a tollé.

1878
00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:35,860
We had never seen it

1879
00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:36,860
since the Second World War.

1880
00:59:36,860 --> 00:59:38,860
The deputies were almost on the table.

1881
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:40,860
And it was supported,

1882
00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:41,860
so Maria van der Rufen

1883
00:59:41,860 --> 00:59:44,860
was supported by the professor Seyss Decker,

1884
00:59:44,860 --> 00:59:47,860
who received the Prize Spinoza in 2003.

1885
00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:48,860
The Prize Spinoza,

1886
00:59:48,860 --> 00:59:52,860
it's the prize scientific

1887
00:59:52,860 --> 00:59:53,860
the most important.

1888
00:59:53,860 --> 00:59:55,860
And the professor Seyss Decker

1889
00:59:55,860 --> 00:59:56,860
Seyss Decker a pris

1890
00:59:56,860 --> 00:59:58,860
fête et cause pour Maria van der Rufen,

1891
00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,860
who was the minister of the Science,

1892
00:59:59,860 --> 01:00:01,860
and his professor enseignait

1893
01:00:01,860 --> 01:00:03,860
le creationism

1894
01:00:03,860 --> 01:00:05,860
dans les Églises évangélistes,

1895
01:00:05,860 --> 01:00:06,860
etc.

1896
01:00:06,860 --> 01:00:07,860
So it's very important

1897
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:08,860
to le dire,

1898
01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:09,860
I think.

1899
01:00:09,860 --> 01:00:10,860
So,

1900
01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:11,860
écoutez,

1901
01:00:11,860 --> 01:00:13,860
it's not a profession intéressante,

1902
01:00:13,860 --> 01:00:14,860
there are others

1903
01:00:14,860 --> 01:00:15,860
of the same genre.

1904
01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:16,860
It means that the combat continues

1905
01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:17,860
and it's no longer

1906
01:00:17,860 --> 01:00:18,860
to be lost.

1907
01:00:18,860 --> 01:00:19,860
And I think that

1908
01:00:19,860 --> 01:00:20,860
there is a chance

1909
01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:21,860
that it will be gained

1910
01:00:21,860 --> 01:00:22,860
because from the moment

1911
01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:23,860
where the adversary

1912
01:00:23,860 --> 01:00:24,860
doesn't have the possibility

1913
01:00:24,860 --> 01:00:25,860
to respond to the argument,

1914
01:00:25,860 --> 01:00:27,860
it's that he knows

1915
01:00:27,860 --> 01:00:28,860
what he has lost.

1916
01:00:28,860 --> 01:00:29,860
And when the adversary

1917
01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:30,860
knows what he has lost,

1918
01:00:30,860 --> 01:00:31,860
he is gained.

1919
01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:32,860
But for the moment,

1920
01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:34,860
he has still the microphone,

1921
01:00:34,860 --> 01:00:35,860
he has still the microphone,

1922
01:00:35,860 --> 01:00:36,860
he has still the television,

1923
01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:37,860
but it doesn't count

1924
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:39,860
because it's the truth

1925
01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:40,860
that he counts.

1926
01:00:40,860 --> 01:00:41,860
So,

1927
01:00:41,860 --> 01:00:43,860
I thank the doctor

1928
01:00:43,860 --> 01:00:44,860
Dr. Babouna

1929
01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:46,860
for coming to Turkey

1930
01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:47,860
for us to present

1931
01:00:47,860 --> 01:00:48,860
a document

1932
01:00:48,860 --> 01:00:49,860
that is,

1933
01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:50,860
that is,

1934
01:00:50,860 --> 01:00:51,860
that is,

1935
01:00:51,860 --> 01:00:52,860
I think,

1936
01:00:52,860 --> 01:00:53,860
that on the plan

1937
01:00:53,860 --> 01:00:54,860
of the form,

1938
01:00:54,860 --> 01:00:55,860
there is a knowledge

1939
01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:56,860
that is,

1940
01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:57,860
that is,

1941
01:00:57,860 --> 01:00:58,860
that is,

1942
01:00:58,860 --> 01:00:59,860
that is,

1943
01:00:59,860 --> 01:01:00,860
that is,

1944
01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:01,860
that is,

1945
01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:02,860
that is,

1946
01:01:02,860 --> 01:01:03,860
that is,

1947
01:01:03,860 --> 01:01:04,860
that is,

1948
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:05,860
that is,

1949
01:01:05,860 --> 01:01:06,860
that is,

1950
01:01:06,860 --> 01:01:07,860
that is,

1951
01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:08,860
that is,

1952
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:09,860
that is,

1953
01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:10,860
the vision

1954
01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:11,860
of the world of Islam.

1955
01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:12,860
I know,

1956
01:01:12,860 --> 01:01:13,860
of course,

1957
01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:14,860
that here,

1958
01:01:14,860 --> 01:01:15,860
this vision of the world

1959
01:01:15,860 --> 01:01:16,860
can shock

1960
01:01:16,860 --> 01:01:18,860
or not be shared

1961
01:01:18,860 --> 01:01:19,860
because there are

1962
01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:21,860
really

1963
01:01:21,860 --> 01:01:22,860
fundamental differences

1964
01:01:22,860 --> 01:01:23,860
between the views

1965
01:01:23,860 --> 01:01:24,860
because if there were not,

1966
01:01:24,860 --> 01:01:26,860
it would be a long time.

1967
01:01:26,860 --> 01:01:27,860
And,

1968
01:01:27,860 --> 01:01:28,860
we will not

1969
01:01:28,860 --> 01:01:29,860
in two hours

1970
01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:30,860
of conference

1971
01:01:30,860 --> 01:01:31,860
to regulate

1972
01:01:31,860 --> 01:01:32,860
a difference

1973
01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:33,860
since the centuries.

1974
01:01:33,860 --> 01:01:34,860
But,

1975
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:35,860
the important thing

1976
01:01:35,860 --> 01:01:36,860
was to show

1977
01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:37,860
that

1978
01:01:37,860 --> 01:01:38,860
that,

1979
01:01:38,860 --> 01:01:39,860
beyond these barriers

1980
01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:41,860
between the people,

1981
01:01:41,860 --> 01:01:42,860
there is

1982
01:01:42,860 --> 01:01:43,860
what we call

1983
01:01:43,860 --> 01:01:44,860
in the evangelism

1984
01:01:44,860 --> 01:01:45,860
of goodwill.

1985
01:01:45,860 --> 01:01:46,860
And,

1986
01:01:46,860 --> 01:01:47,860
it is said

1987
01:01:47,860 --> 01:01:49,860
to be a goodwill.

1988
01:01:49,860 --> 01:01:50,860
And,

1989
01:01:50,860 --> 01:01:51,860
it is said to be a goodwill.

1990
01:01:51,860 --> 01:01:52,860
It is said to be a goodwill.

1991
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:54,860
It is said to be a goodwill.

1992
01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:55,860
So,

1993
01:01:55,860 --> 01:01:56,860
what I would like to say,

1994
01:01:56,860 --> 01:01:57,860
is the possibility,

1995
01:01:57,860 --> 01:01:59,860
in the camps

1996
01:01:59,860 --> 01:02:00,860
also different

1997
01:02:00,860 --> 01:02:01,860
than the Christian

1998
01:02:01,860 --> 01:02:02,860
if you want to say

1999
01:02:02,860 --> 01:02:03,860
the Muslim

2000
01:02:03,860 --> 01:02:04,860
to constate

2001
01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:05,860
that it is possible

2002
01:02:05,860 --> 01:02:06,860
to speak

2003
01:02:06,860 --> 01:02:07,860
peaceably,

2004
01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:08,860
to respond

2005
01:02:08,860 --> 01:02:09,860
to questions

2006
01:02:09,860 --> 01:02:10,860
and,

2007
01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:11,860
on a large number

2008
01:02:11,860 --> 01:02:12,860
of points,

2009
01:02:12,860 --> 01:02:13,860
to constate

2010
01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:14,860
that convergence

2011
01:02:14,860 --> 01:02:15,860
significative

2012
01:02:15,860 --> 01:02:16,860
which,

2013
01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:17,860
perhaps,

2014
01:02:17,860 --> 01:02:18,860
open the way

2015
01:02:18,860 --> 01:02:19,860
to the collaboration

2016
01:02:19,860 --> 01:02:20,860
effective.

2017
01:02:20,860 --> 01:02:21,860
I think

2018
01:02:21,860 --> 01:02:22,860
that the

2019
01:02:22,860 --> 01:02:23,860
operation

2020
01:02:23,860 --> 01:02:24,860
of the professors

2021
01:02:24,860 --> 01:02:25,860
of the university

2022
01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:26,860
can be carried out

2023
01:02:26,860 --> 01:02:27,860
by the Christians

2024
01:02:27,860 --> 01:02:28,860
motivated

2025
01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:29,860
and motivated

2026
01:02:29,860 --> 01:02:30,860
by the scientists

2027
01:02:30,860 --> 01:02:31,860
in the present.

2028
01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:33,860
So,

2029
01:02:33,860 --> 01:02:34,860
thank you.

2030
01:02:34,860 --> 01:02:35,860
So,

2031
01:02:35,860 --> 01:02:36,860
thank you.

2032
01:02:36,860 --> 01:02:40,860
Thank you very much.

2033
01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:41,860
Thank you.

2034
01:02:41,860 --> 01:02:44,860
Thank you very much.

2035
01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:45,860
Thank you very much.

2036
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:46,860
I would like to thank you

2037
01:02:46,860 --> 01:02:48,860
everyone for the time.

2038
01:02:48,860 --> 01:02:50,860
We have a pause

2039
01:02:50,860 --> 01:02:52,860
that we will try to reduce

2040
01:02:52,860 --> 01:02:53,860
in a minute.

2041
01:02:53,860 --> 01:02:54,860
Thank you very much.

2042
01:02:55,860 --> 01:02:56,860
Thank you.

2043
01:02:56,860 --> 01:03:13,160
Je remercie les intervenants de leur présentation, qui est toujours impressionnante.

2044
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:21,280
Alors, effectivement, être anti-évolutionniste, c'est bien et c'est la vérité sur la Terre,

2045
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:27,740
mais pour aller au ciel, le problème, vous avez parlé beaucoup de Dieu et de Jésus,

2046
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:33,320
mais Dieu, bon, que je sache, c'est la très sainte Trinité.

2047
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:42,840
Dieu est esprit et notre Seigneur s'est incarné, le Verbe de Dieu, la deuxième personne de la très sainte Trinité.

2048
01:03:43,020 --> 01:03:48,480
Jésus, quand j'ai entendu le premier interlocuteur dire que Jésus n'était pas mort,

2049
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:55,200
Jésus est mort sur la croix pour sauver tous les hommes et il reviendra juger les vivants et les morts

2050
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,240
et il sera précédé de la sainte croix que vous avez derrière vous.

2051
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:06,360
Et la troisième personne de la très sainte Trinité, c'est le Saint-Esprit qui est le Dieu d'amour,

2052
01:04:06,980 --> 01:04:10,380
le fruit d'amour du Père et du Fils, qui s'aime réciproquement.

2053
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:17,380
Donc, le problème, est-ce que la charité sans la vérité est possible ?

2054
01:04:17,380 --> 01:04:25,980
Je pense que notre action est démontrée dans l'Évangile, qui est le livre qu'a laissé notre Seigneur.

2055
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,600
Lorsque la maison est bâtie sur du sable,

2056
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:36,320
eh bien, les flots peuvent passer et repasser et la maison est emportée.

2057
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:48,000
Or, le roc sur lequel est bâtie la vérité, c'est le Christ, Jésus-Christ, qui est Dieu et qui est le Seigneur au ciel.

2058
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,100
Voilà.

2059
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:51,320
En tout cas, je vous remercie.

2060
01:04:51,460 --> 01:04:57,940
C'était très impressionnant, en tout cas, et très courageux d'aller au Vatican, dans l'ombre du Lyon.

2061
01:04:57,940 --> 01:05:06,360
Je n'ai pas entendu tout ce qu'il fait.

2062
01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:18,140
Ce qu'il faut comprendre, c'est que notre ami, là, on fait remarquer qu'il y a une limite à la collaboration possible entre les chrétiens et les musulmans.

2063
01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:20,380
Et ça paraît une évidence.

2064
01:05:21,500 --> 01:05:26,760
Mais, comme je l'ai expliqué, alors malheureusement, le micro-baladeur ne marche pas.

2065
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,540
Donc, je demande à ceux qui veulent poser la question de venir ici.

2066
01:05:30,380 --> 01:05:32,640
Et on est obligé de faire comme ça.

2067
01:05:33,740 --> 01:05:38,720
Et, alors, si c'est possible, il y a le problème de la langue.

2068
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,200
Je regrette que l'administration d'Ouenengin ne soit partie.

2069
01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:47,200
Mais on va... Parce que là, la langue, c'est très compliqué.

2070
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:55,600
Bon, il est évident que le CEP n'a pas de mission pour promouvoir quelques religions qu'il soit, d'ailleurs, si ce n'est le christianisme.

2071
01:05:56,180 --> 01:06:04,760
Mais le but de cette présentation, je l'ai expliqué au début, c'était de vous apporter une information de première main sur un phénomène important

2072
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,280
qui se déroule aujourd'hui, au début du XXIe siècle, en islam.

2073
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,740
Maintenant, vous êtes assez grande pour penser par vous-même.

2074
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:15,680
Très bien.

2075
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:20,780
Oui, une question, rassurez-vous, très brève et très précise.

2076
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,380
Notre orateur a fait allusion au fait qu'en Iran,

2077
01:06:24,980 --> 01:06:29,240
en Iran, l'évolutionnisme relevait, pour ainsi dire, de la doctrine officielle.

2078
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,500
Je voudrais savoir si c'est spécifique à l'Iran,

2079
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,080
ou bien, si ça n'est pas spécifique, plus largement, à l'islam chiiste.

2080
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:42,740
Et dans l'hypothèse où ça le serait, j'aimerais en connaître la raison.

2081
01:06:42,740 --> 01:06:43,880
Voilà.

2082
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:53,180
Donc c'est bien, c'est une étude marxiste qui n'a...

2083
01:06:53,180 --> 01:06:58,280
Mais est-ce marxiste éducation développée en Iran,

2084
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,380
parce que c'est un pays qui n'est pas un pays qui n'est pas un pays.

2085
01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:03,080
Non, je ne sais pas.

2086
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:03,380
Non, je ne sais pas.

2087
01:07:03,380 --> 01:07:06,580
Oui, Shia, je crois, est pas prevé dans l'Iran.

2088
01:07:07,380 --> 01:07:08,480
Mais l'Iran est prévélien dans l'Iran,

2089
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,480
dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran,

2090
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,480
dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran.

2091
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,580
Le gouvernement est contrôlé par une structure marxiste deep-state structure,

2092
01:07:13,580 --> 01:07:18,180
et ce qui contrôle, il y a beaucoup de résistance avec le darwinisme.

2093
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:21,680
Par exemple, si vous ne pouvez pas faire une conférence

2094
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,980
ou une lutte intellectuelle contre le darwinisme,

2095
01:07:23,980 --> 01:07:25,680
le state va résister.

2096
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,980
Parce que le marxisme est une structure deep-state structure

2097
01:07:28,980 --> 01:07:30,480
qui contrôle le state.

2098
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,680
Donc le marxiste mindset contrôle l'Iran.

2099
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,480
du tout, c'est une structure marxiste.

2100
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,980
Et donc le darwinisme est utilisé comme idéologie d'État,

2101
01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:47,980
comme dans tous les pays marxistes,

2102
01:07:47,980 --> 01:07:49,980
et imposé à tout le monde.

2103
01:07:49,980 --> 01:07:51,980
Parce que ça n'est pas cette grande apparence, bien sûr,

2104
01:07:51,980 --> 01:07:54,980
c'est un pays gîte, et on met toujours la religion en avant,

2105
01:07:54,980 --> 01:07:58,980
mais la structure de pouvoir en Iran est une structure marxiste.

2106
01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:02,980
En dehors de l'Iran, dans les pays musulmans, quoi ?

2107
01:08:02,980 --> 01:08:07,980
In other countries than Iran,

2108
01:08:07,980 --> 01:08:18,980
de l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran,

2109
01:08:18,980 --> 01:08:20,480
c'est la même chose ?

2110
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:21,480
Oui.

2111
01:08:21,480 --> 01:08:22,480
Déharmonisme est en tant que l'Iran,

2112
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:22,980
en Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan,

2113
01:08:22,980 --> 01:08:23,980
Algeria,

2114
01:08:23,980 --> 01:08:26,480
en allant de la Syrie,

2115
01:08:26,480 --> 01:08:27,480
en Irak,

2116
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:28,980
en tous les pays,

2117
01:08:28,980 --> 01:08:30,480
même en Turquie.

2118
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:32,480
Déharmonisme est toujours en tant que l'Iran,

2119
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:35,480
mais avec les works de Mr. Harun Yahya,

2120
01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:37,480
en plus de la plus en plus de la plus de la plus de la plus de la plus,

2121
01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:39,180
thousands of conferences

2122
01:08:39,180 --> 01:08:41,080
and millions of booklets were distributed

2123
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,580
free of charge on the street in Turkey.

2124
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,220
Although Darwinism is still being

2125
01:08:45,220 --> 01:08:47,140
thought in the schools, 95%

2126
01:08:47,140 --> 01:08:49,140
of the Turkish people do not believe in Darwinism

2127
01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:50,560
anymore. And this was done by

2128
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,320
Darwinism media, not by us.

2129
01:09:07,480 --> 01:09:09,480
The population has

2130
01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:11,240
access to today an information

2131
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,380
anti-darwinian and

2132
01:09:13,380 --> 01:09:15,060
we arrive at this point where

2133
01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:17,400
in Turkey, 90% of the people

2134
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,740
do not believe in Darwinism.

2135
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:33,800
So the question,

2136
01:09:34,060 --> 01:09:34,740
Jésus

2137
01:09:34,740 --> 01:09:37,440
revient, va revenir,

2138
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:39,680
donc sera-t-il humain ou divin?

2139
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:43,980
Well, according

2140
01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:45,740
to hadiths, the sayings

2141
01:09:45,740 --> 01:09:47,080
of the prophet, signs given

2142
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,880
by our prophet about the end times,

2143
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:50,840
they have all happened.

2144
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,260
That means, Jesus, peace be upon him,

2145
01:09:54,340 --> 01:09:55,940
must have returned, must be alive.

2146
01:09:56,660 --> 01:09:57,760
But we know he will be

2147
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,140
keep secret at the beginning.

2148
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,360
But the time is coming that

2149
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,220
all the entire world will see him,

2150
01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:04,300
will embrace him.

2151
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,260
Jesus will be, he's a prophet,

2152
01:10:06,460 --> 01:10:07,980
will love and respect him very much,

2153
01:10:08,060 --> 01:10:09,500
the entire, he will bring peace

2154
01:10:09,500 --> 01:10:10,400
to the entire world.

2155
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:11,580
And these times are coming.

2156
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:12,880
According to Quran,

2157
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:14,460
he's a prophet of Allah,

2158
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,220
so he's human.

2159
01:10:15,220 --> 01:10:40,320
Yes, Allah created the Satan,

2160
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,240
and Satan is under control of Allah.

2161
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:43,840
And the lower soul,

2162
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:45,020
in humans are,

2163
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:45,740
according to Quran,

2164
01:10:45,860 --> 01:10:46,300
Allah says,

2165
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:47,380
the lower soul,

2166
01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:48,000
it's called

2167
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:48,900
in Arabic,

2168
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:50,480
is created by Allah.

2169
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:51,820
Which is, for example,

2170
01:10:51,980 --> 01:10:52,240
everybody,

2171
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:53,740
there's in lower soul,

2172
01:10:53,860 --> 01:10:55,260
everybody has the features

2173
01:10:55,260 --> 01:10:56,560
of selfishness,

2174
01:10:57,140 --> 01:10:58,040
being egoistic,

2175
01:10:58,220 --> 01:10:58,740
for example,

2176
01:10:58,980 --> 01:10:59,740
being jealous,

2177
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,000
being a tyrant.

2178
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,560
but what we need to do

2179
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:05,420
is, for the test,

2180
01:11:05,660 --> 01:11:07,220
we need to control ourselves,

2181
01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:08,120
press,

2182
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,700
crush this lower soul,

2183
01:11:10,180 --> 01:11:11,260
and have it a good faith,

2184
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:12,460
and follow,

2185
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,180
obey the rules of Allah,

2186
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:15,120
the revelations.

2187
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:15,920
So,

2188
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:17,840
we follow the good morality,

2189
01:11:18,380 --> 01:11:19,880
and then we will pass this test.

2190
01:11:19,980 --> 01:11:20,980
This is part of the test.

2191
01:11:20,980 --> 01:11:22,480
So, Satan is the program

2192
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:23,340
of the extermination.

2193
01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:23,660
So,

2194
01:11:23,660 --> 01:11:25,320
it's part of the example.

2195
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,520
So,

2196
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,260
we're going to expose

2197
01:11:26,260 --> 01:11:26,820
the problem.

2198
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:28,060
But,

2199
01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:30,640
it's God who created

2200
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,800
the demon,

2201
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,060
but it's a very important point.

2202
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,040
It's God who created

2203
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,360
the bad thing in the human being.

2204
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:39,960
And so,

2205
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,660
we are on earth,

2206
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:43,580
we have a good thing

2207
01:11:43,580 --> 01:11:44,200
that we push

2208
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:44,580
to the evil,

2209
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:45,240
to the violence,

2210
01:11:45,420 --> 01:11:46,920
to the egoism,

2211
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,140
but we have a good thing.

2212
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,000
And,

2213
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,240
God is there,

2214
01:11:51,420 --> 01:11:52,680
observe our efforts

2215
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:53,880
for the good.

2216
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:54,880
And,

2217
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,020
at the end,

2218
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:56,880
he will be judged

2219
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,080
the people of the good

2220
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,520
or the bad

2221
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,960
in terms of what they will have done,

2222
01:12:00,020 --> 01:12:00,960
in terms of the fight

2223
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:01,620
they will have given

2224
01:12:01,620 --> 01:12:03,280
against their bad things.

2225
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:03,780
But,

2226
01:12:03,780 --> 01:12:04,680
it's a point

2227
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,600
fundamental.

2228
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:06,540
So,

2229
01:12:06,540 --> 01:12:08,720
it's not,

2230
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:09,180
it's not,

2231
01:12:09,480 --> 01:12:09,780
it's not,

2232
01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:10,400
it's not a lot of time

2233
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:10,980
to talk about it,

2234
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,880
but we have,

2235
01:12:13,020 --> 01:12:14,140
we have talked about it

2236
01:12:14,140 --> 01:12:14,340
here,

2237
01:12:14,420 --> 01:12:15,940
because I think

2238
01:12:15,940 --> 01:12:17,040
that it's the difference

2239
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,820
between the Christian

2240
01:12:18,820 --> 01:12:20,280
and what I've heard

2241
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:20,880
of the Islam,

2242
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:22,540
it's the fact that

2243
01:12:22,540 --> 01:12:23,960
this bad thing

2244
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:24,460
in the man,

2245
01:12:24,820 --> 01:12:27,760
which is the bad thing,

2246
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,660
which is a notion

2247
01:12:28,660 --> 01:12:29,160
of the ludic,

2248
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:29,520
by the way,

2249
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,280
is created by God.

2250
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,380
And that's the big difference.

2251
01:12:33,380 --> 01:12:36,020
and it's for that

2252
01:12:36,020 --> 01:12:40,100
that the first passage

2253
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:40,560
of Jesus

2254
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,900
is not a passage

2255
01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:42,460
of redemption,

2256
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,620
because there is no need

2257
01:12:43,620 --> 01:12:44,100
of redemption.

2258
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:45,960
So,

2259
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:46,440
we have,

2260
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:47,020
quand même,

2261
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:47,760
des différences

2262
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,040
très très profondes

2263
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:49,940
dans les croyances

2264
01:12:49,940 --> 01:12:50,460
religieuses,

2265
01:12:50,580 --> 01:12:50,940
évidemment,

2266
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,800
on n'était pas ici

2267
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,620
pour examiner

2268
01:12:56,620 --> 01:12:57,720
ces questions théologiques,

2269
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:58,360
donc je,

2270
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:59,400
on va,

2271
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:00,700
non,

2272
01:13:00,740 --> 01:13:01,400
je crois qu'on va,

2273
01:13:01,540 --> 01:13:02,360
on va arrêter,

2274
01:13:02,540 --> 01:13:03,680
parce que il est 4h20,

2275
01:13:03,820 --> 01:13:04,260
normalement,

2276
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:04,780
la pause,

2277
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,280
ou bien l'argent,

2278
01:13:06,620 --> 01:13:07,240
ou la publicité.

2279
01:13:07,260 --> 01:13:07,420
Ah oui,

2280
01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:07,880
on a quand même

2281
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:08,900
effectivement une question,

2282
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,660
qui,

2283
01:13:10,900 --> 01:13:11,520
who paid

2284
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,520
the diffusion

2285
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:13,940
of the pollution

2286
01:13:13,940 --> 01:13:14,480
of that?

2287
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:18,300
Who paid

2288
01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:18,820
the diffusion

2289
01:13:18,820 --> 01:13:19,300
of that?

2290
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:21,280
And,

2291
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:22,400
we are

2292
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,740
several hundred,

2293
01:13:23,940 --> 01:13:25,100
about 300 people,

2294
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,440
friends of Mr. Harun Yahya,

2295
01:13:27,540 --> 01:13:28,380
Mr. Adnan Oktar.

2296
01:13:29,300 --> 01:13:30,300
Many of us

2297
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:30,820
are from

2298
01:13:30,820 --> 01:13:31,640
head business.

2299
01:13:32,060 --> 01:13:33,120
They have their own companies,

2300
01:13:33,620 --> 01:13:34,220
and some of them

2301
01:13:34,220 --> 01:13:34,780
have factories.

2302
01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:35,560
So,

2303
01:13:35,620 --> 01:13:36,200
we make money,

2304
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:37,800
and we spend

2305
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:38,940
in the way of God,

2306
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:39,640
because

2307
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,260
Darwinism is very urgent.

2308
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,400
that is the reason

2309
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,240
why our unity

2310
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,120
is so important.

2311
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,440
We unite,

2312
01:13:45,860 --> 01:13:46,960
because we have

2313
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:47,820
the same goal,

2314
01:13:48,020 --> 01:13:48,520
common goal,

2315
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:49,080
what is that?

2316
01:13:49,480 --> 01:13:51,320
To eradicate intellectually

2317
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,320
these atheistic philosophies,

2318
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,080
which are the cause

2319
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:54,680
of the corruption,

2320
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:55,840
and will bring,

2321
01:13:56,180 --> 01:13:56,720
this will bring

2322
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:57,620
the religious morality

2323
01:13:57,620 --> 01:13:58,840
to the entire world.

2324
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,060
And so,

2325
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,640
we spend our money,

2326
01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:02,380
and we pay

2327
01:14:02,380 --> 01:14:03,320
for the efforts of creation.

2328
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:04,120
We don't accept

2329
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:04,700
any donations.

2330
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:06,300
Mais donc,

2331
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:07,200
il n'y a pas,

2332
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,520
le Harun Yahya

2333
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,140
ne reçoit pas de dons,

2334
01:14:10,140 --> 01:14:10,800
il y a,

2335
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,040
entre 300

2336
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,080
et 700 personnes

2337
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:14,140
qui sont

2338
01:14:14,140 --> 01:14:14,840
des entreprises,

2339
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,020
etc.,

2340
01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:17,340
comme les personnes

2341
01:14:17,340 --> 01:14:18,200
qui sont destinées,

2342
01:14:18,500 --> 01:14:18,900
et qui,

2343
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:19,600
de même,

2344
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:20,920
donnent de leurs revenus

2345
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,040
pour l'association.

2346
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:23,620
Donc,

2347
01:14:23,740 --> 01:14:24,840
c'est ce qui fait,

2348
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:25,040
d'ailleurs,

2349
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:25,480
la force

2350
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:26,800
de l'association,

2351
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:27,480
c'est qu'elle est libre.

2352
01:14:27,820 --> 01:14:28,060
Libre.

2353
01:14:28,060 --> 01:14:28,340
dépend.

2354
01:14:29,340 --> 01:14:29,780
Can I...

2355
01:14:29,780 --> 01:14:30,920
Mr. Admin Oktar

2356
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,900
never makes,

2357
01:14:32,420 --> 01:14:34,180
not even single cent

2358
01:14:34,180 --> 01:14:35,160
from his books.

2359
01:14:35,820 --> 01:14:36,660
He never makes money.

2360
01:14:37,060 --> 01:14:38,140
He spends his all money,

2361
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:38,440
actually,

2362
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,120
for his books,

2363
01:14:39,340 --> 01:14:40,340
distributing his books.

2364
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:41,760
He never accepts

2365
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,060
any money from his books

2366
01:14:43,060 --> 01:14:43,980
because,

2367
01:14:44,140 --> 01:14:44,760
according to the Quran,

2368
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:45,620
it's unlawful.

2369
01:14:46,140 --> 01:14:47,500
For spreading the message,

2370
01:14:47,740 --> 01:14:48,180
the religion,

2371
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:49,600
you cannot earn money

2372
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:50,080
from that.

2373
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:51,700
D'après le Quran,

2374
01:14:51,820 --> 01:14:52,280
on ne peut pas,

2375
01:14:52,340 --> 01:14:52,840
de toute façon,

2376
01:14:52,940 --> 01:14:53,620
gagner de l'argent

2377
01:14:53,620 --> 01:14:55,120
en diffusant la bonne parole.

2378
01:14:55,460 --> 01:14:55,480
Donc,

2379
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:56,460
M. Oktar,

2380
01:14:57,020 --> 01:14:59,260
Admin Oktar,

2381
01:14:59,500 --> 01:15:00,800
ne prend aucune...

2382
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:01,120
Au cas,

2383
01:15:01,180 --> 01:15:01,520
d'auteur,

2384
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:01,920
bien entendu,

2385
01:15:02,020 --> 01:15:02,480
sur ce livre,

2386
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,040
c'est pas le but de l'opération.

2387
01:15:04,660 --> 01:15:05,260
Et c'est...

2388
01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:05,460
Alors,

2389
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:05,680
ça,

2390
01:15:05,780 --> 01:15:06,660
c'est contraire,

2391
01:15:06,740 --> 01:15:07,120
si vous voulez,

2392
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,000
au point du but du Quran.

2393
01:15:08,540 --> 01:15:08,840
Écoutez,

2394
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,060
je suis...

2395
01:15:10,060 --> 01:15:11,620
On pourrait parler longtemps,

2396
01:15:11,740 --> 01:15:12,600
il y aurait beaucoup de points

2397
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,460
qu'on n'a pas abordés.

2398
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,000
Je ne veux pas passer...

2399
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:16,900
Ah,

2400
01:15:16,900 --> 01:15:17,560
c'est pas une question ?

2401
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,220
C'est juste quelque chose

2402
01:15:18,220 --> 01:15:18,960
à dire qui est important

2403
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,000
par rapport à...

2404
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,860
C'est passé au Vatican,

2405
01:15:21,940 --> 01:15:22,460
en Hollande,

2406
01:15:22,580 --> 01:15:23,920
c'est passé la même chose,

2407
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:25,160
c'est un tremblement de terre.

2408
01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:26,220
Ça saute une minute.

2409
01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:26,840
Oui,

2410
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,820
une minute de 30...

2411
01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:29,160
de 5,

2412
01:15:29,220 --> 01:15:29,780
60 secondes.

2413
01:15:31,940 --> 01:15:32,940
En 2005,

2414
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:33,460
au Pays-Bas,

2415
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:33,920
il s'est passé

2416
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:34,520
ce que j'appellerais

2417
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,760
un tremblement de terre

2418
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,080
créationniste.

2419
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,680
Le ministre,

2420
01:15:38,780 --> 01:15:39,280
qui est une femme,

2421
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,280
Maria van der Rufen,

2422
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:41,500
en 2005,

2423
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:41,920
donc,

2424
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,020
ministre de la Culture,

2425
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:44,180
ministre de l'Enseignement

2426
01:15:44,180 --> 01:15:45,680
et ministre de la Science,

2427
01:15:46,140 --> 01:15:46,440
dit,

2428
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:47,840
nous devons enseigner

2429
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,120
au même niveau

2430
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,560
le créationnisme

2431
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,120
et le darwinisme,

2432
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:52,940
puisque le darwinisme

2433
01:15:52,940 --> 01:15:53,560
ne répond pas

2434
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,400
à toutes ces questions.

2435
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:55,500
À l'Assemblée,

2436
01:15:55,580 --> 01:15:55,840
donc,

2437
01:15:56,060 --> 01:15:57,140
à Daé,

2438
01:15:57,580 --> 01:15:58,680
ça a été véritablement

2439
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,040
un tollé.

2440
01:16:00,380 --> 01:16:01,100
On n'avait jamais vu ça

2441
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:02,160
depuis la Seconde Guerre mondiale.

2442
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,040
les députés montaient

2443
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:03,960
presque sur les tables

2444
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,260
et elle a été soutenue,

2445
01:16:06,340 --> 01:16:07,220
donc Maria van der Rufen

2446
01:16:07,220 --> 01:16:07,860
a été soutenue

2447
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:09,300
par le professeur

2448
01:16:09,300 --> 01:16:10,100
Seyss Decker

2449
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:11,600
qui a reçu

2450
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:12,600
le prix Spinoza

2451
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:13,520
en 2003.

2452
01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:14,780
Le prix Spinoza,

2453
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,880
c'est le prix scientifique

2454
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:19,580
le plus important.

2455
01:16:20,340 --> 01:16:20,940
Et le professeur

2456
01:16:20,940 --> 01:16:21,500
Seyss Decker

2457
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:21,920
a pris

2458
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:22,860
Fête et Cause

2459
01:16:22,860 --> 01:16:24,140
pour Maria van der Rufen,

2460
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:24,540
donc qui était

2461
01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:25,320
ministre de la Science,

2462
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:26,860
et ce professeur

2463
01:16:26,860 --> 01:16:27,480
enseignait

2464
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:29,380
le créationnisme

2465
01:16:29,380 --> 01:16:30,600
dans les églises

2466
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:31,460
évangélistes, etc.

2467
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:33,180
Donc c'est très important

2468
01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:33,940
de le dire, je pense.

2469
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:36,400
Donc, écoutez,

2470
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:38,500
il n'a pas

2471
01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:39,160
une question intéressante,

2472
01:16:39,260 --> 01:16:39,940
il en aurait d'autres

2473
01:16:39,940 --> 01:16:40,600
du même genre.

2474
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:41,460
Ça veut dire

2475
01:16:41,460 --> 01:16:42,580
que le combat continue

2476
01:16:42,580 --> 01:16:43,700
et il est loin d'être perdu

2477
01:16:43,700 --> 01:16:44,520
et je pense même

2478
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,360
qu'il y a de fortes chances

2479
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:46,960
qu'il soit gagné

2480
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,300
parce que,

2481
01:16:47,380 --> 01:16:47,780
à partir du moment

2482
01:16:47,780 --> 01:16:48,520
où l'adversaire

2483
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,240
n'a pas la possibilité

2484
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,600
de répondre à d'argument,

2485
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,700
c'est qu'il sait

2486
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:53,940
qu'il a perdu.

2487
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:54,800
Et quand l'adversaire

2488
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:55,460
sait qu'il a perdu,

2489
01:16:55,660 --> 01:16:56,440
il est perdu.

2490
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:58,660
Mais, pour le moment,

2491
01:16:58,820 --> 01:16:59,880
il a encore des micros,

2492
01:17:00,020 --> 01:17:00,500
il a de l'argent,

2493
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,220
il a des réseaux télévisions,

2494
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:03,520
mais ça ne compte pas

2495
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:04,560
parce que c'est

2496
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:05,820
la vérité qui compte.

2497
01:17:06,660 --> 01:17:08,060
Donc, je remercie

2498
01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:09,320
le docteur

2499
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,560
Babouna

2500
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,440
d'être venu

2501
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:12,080
de Turquie

2502
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,600
pour nous présenter

2503
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,040
un document

2504
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:15,280
d'ailleurs

2505
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,280
très très bien réalisé.

2506
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:16,840
Je me dis

2507
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:17,320
que je suis fourré

2508
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:18,720
que sur le plan

2509
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,220
de la forme,

2510
01:17:20,940 --> 01:17:22,040
il y a du savoir-faire

2511
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,200
chez nos amis turcs.

2512
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,220
Et je remercie également

2513
01:17:25,220 --> 01:17:26,340
Alissa Dunenguin

2514
01:17:26,340 --> 01:17:28,080
que je n'aperçois plus.

2515
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,840
Ah oui, voilà,

2516
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:29,740
qui était

2517
01:17:29,740 --> 01:17:30,440
à la canéra,

2518
01:17:31,540 --> 01:17:32,280
qui nous a,

2519
01:17:32,420 --> 01:17:33,400
dans un excellent français,

2520
01:17:34,540 --> 01:17:35,040
fait part

2521
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:35,960
de la vision

2522
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:36,800
du monde

2523
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,460
de l'islam.

2524
01:17:37,660 --> 01:17:38,300
Alors, je sais bien,

2525
01:17:38,380 --> 01:17:38,640
bien sûr,

2526
01:17:38,740 --> 01:17:39,160
que ici,

2527
01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:40,400
cette vision du monde

2528
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,720
peut choquer

2529
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:43,780
ou ne peut pas être

2530
01:17:43,780 --> 01:17:45,100
immédiatement partagée

2531
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:46,080
parce qu'il y a vraiment

2532
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,280
des différences fondamentales

2533
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,000
entre l'irvion.

2534
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:49,960
Parce que si on n'avait pas,

2535
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,580
ça se saurait

2536
01:17:50,580 --> 01:17:51,240
depuis longtemps.

2537
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,740
quand même.

2538
01:17:53,020 --> 01:17:53,820
Et on ne va pas

2539
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:55,160
en deux heures

2540
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:55,960
de conférences

2541
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,340
régler un différent

2542
01:17:57,340 --> 01:17:58,740
qui dure depuis des siècles.

2543
01:17:59,420 --> 01:18:00,640
Mais l'important,

2544
01:18:01,060 --> 01:18:02,700
c'était de vous montrer

2545
01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:04,320
qu'au-delà

2546
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,140
de ces différents,

2547
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:05,980
de ces barrières

2548
01:18:05,980 --> 01:18:06,820
entre les personnes,

2549
01:18:07,420 --> 01:18:08,640
il y a partout

2550
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:09,760
ce qu'on appelle

2551
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:10,320
dans l'Évangile

2552
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,520
les gens de bonne volonté.

2553
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,360
Et il est dit

2554
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,400
paix aux hommes

2555
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,080
de bonne volonté.

2556
01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:16,240
Et on ne le dit pas

2557
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:17,000
aux hommes de volonté

2558
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:17,800
de votre camp.

2559
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:18,800
Non, il est dit

2560
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,300
paix aux hommes

2561
01:18:19,300 --> 01:18:19,780
de bonne volonté.

2562
01:18:19,780 --> 01:18:20,800
Donc ce qui est,

2563
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,440
ce que je voudrais signaler,

2564
01:18:22,540 --> 01:18:23,420
c'est la possibilité

2565
01:18:23,420 --> 01:18:24,000
effectivement,

2566
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:25,200
dans des camps

2567
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,140
aussi différents

2568
01:18:26,140 --> 01:18:27,760
que le camp chrétien,

2569
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:28,300
si on veut dire,

2570
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:29,220
le camp musulman,

2571
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:30,140
de constater

2572
01:18:30,140 --> 01:18:31,080
qu'il est possible

2573
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,060
de parler paisiblement,

2574
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:34,100
de répondre

2575
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:35,160
aux questions

2576
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,540
et sur un grand nombre

2577
01:18:37,540 --> 01:18:37,900
de points

2578
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:38,620
de constater

2579
01:18:38,620 --> 01:18:39,480
des convergences

2580
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:40,900
quand même significatives

2581
01:18:40,900 --> 01:18:42,100
et qui peut-être

2582
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:42,880
ouvrent la voie

2583
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:43,640
des collaborations

2584
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:44,720
effectives

2585
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,280
pour des,

2586
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:46,060
je pense que

2587
01:18:46,060 --> 01:18:47,160
des opérations

2588
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,160
de déstabilisation

2589
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:49,760
aux professeurs

2590
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,300
de lycée

2591
01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:51,120
peuvent être

2592
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:52,020
parfaitement menées

2593
01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:52,700
de concert

2594
01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:53,540
par des chrétiens

2595
01:18:53,540 --> 01:18:53,980
motivés

2596
01:18:53,980 --> 01:18:54,580
et des musulmans

2597
01:18:54,580 --> 01:18:55,060
motivés.

2598
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:55,380
Enfin,

2599
01:18:55,540 --> 01:18:56,220
des stabilisations

2600
01:18:56,220 --> 01:18:56,980
dans le France.

2601
01:18:57,980 --> 01:18:58,580
Donc,

2602
01:18:58,720 --> 01:18:59,460
merci encore

2603
01:18:59,460 --> 01:19:00,140
à nos amis

2604
01:19:00,140 --> 01:19:01,280
d'Urti.

2605
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:15,800
Nous avons une pause

2606
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,300
que nous allons essayer

2607
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:18,760
de réduire

2608
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:19,280
à 20 minutes.