WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:00.500 ... 00:00.500 --> 00:11.460 ...dans l'université grégorienne, l'université Notre-Dame, 00:11.920 --> 00:15.300 se sont groupés pour organiser à l'université grégorienne à Rome 00:15.300 --> 00:17.400 un symposium sur l'évolution. 00:18.320 --> 00:21.200 Et à ce symposium, on pouvait évidemment s'inscrire, 00:21.940 --> 00:23.540 on pouvait demander à intervenir, 00:23.720 --> 00:25.720 et plusieurs membres, quelques membres du secte, 00:25.800 --> 00:27.020 donc Pierre-Avignon, Guy-Biard, Guy-Biard, 00:27.020 --> 00:28.040 on pouvait demander à intervenir, 00:28.040 --> 00:31.880 mais apparemment leur collaboration n'était pas jugée utile. 00:32.380 --> 00:36.300 Il faut dire que la fondation Templeton avait donné un million de dollars 00:36.300 --> 00:39.360 de sponsoring, excusez-moi le mot, 00:39.940 --> 00:41.100 mais je préfère le dire en anglais, 00:41.620 --> 00:43.500 pour la tenue de cette réunion. 00:43.680 --> 00:45.080 Donc de quoi payer quelques billets d'avion 00:45.080 --> 00:47.260 pour les personnalités qui sont intervenues. 00:47.760 --> 00:51.320 Mais on pouvait s'inscrire, assister, 00:51.900 --> 00:53.160 et on pouvait poser des questions, 00:53.360 --> 00:54.900 et le docteur Abouna était là-bas, 00:54.900 --> 00:57.000 il a posé des questions et il vous racontera ce qui s'est passé. 00:58.040 --> 01:01.880 Donc, je suis très heureux, 01:01.880 --> 01:03.880 et je suis très heureux d'être parmi vous, 01:03.880 --> 01:31.100 et d'avoir répondu à l'administration qui m'avait été faite, 01:31.100 --> 01:31.640 parce que ça se découpe pas. 01:33.260 --> 01:35.800 Mon collègue, mon ami Salim, 01:35.940 --> 01:37.740 a juste parlé de nos activités. 01:37.880 --> 01:39.900 Nous représentons M. Adnan Oktar, 01:40.140 --> 01:41.940 qui utilise le penneau « Hari Yahya » 01:41.940 --> 01:44.780 et il a convainc ses profs de respect 01:44.780 --> 01:46.440 et de réveiller à tous de vous, 01:46.640 --> 01:48.160 et nous aimerions vous rencontrer en Turquie. 01:48.260 --> 01:49.120 Nous pouvons vous rencontrer en Turquie. 01:49.120 --> 01:54.300 Donc, comme Alisa Doulenguin qui vous a parlé, 01:54.860 --> 01:57.620 nous représentons ici Adnan Oktar, 01:57.760 --> 02:01.900 le dirigeant de l'association Haru Yahya, 02:02.340 --> 02:05.240 et nous sommes heureux de vous accueillir. 02:05.240 --> 02:30.440 Donc, c'est une grande occasion pour nous 02:30.440 --> 02:32.980 de montrer une collaboration possible 02:32.980 --> 02:34.920 entre nous et nos frères chrétiens, 02:35.480 --> 02:37.340 et dans cette lutte en particulier 02:37.340 --> 02:39.580 contre le laroïnisme, 02:39.840 --> 02:41.680 qui est la source de tout le monde. 02:41.680 --> 02:44.540 Alors, je voudrais commencer 02:44.540 --> 02:47.280 avec les activités de M. Adnan Oktar 02:47.280 --> 02:48.420 et nous, ce que nous faisons, 02:48.580 --> 02:49.440 je voudrais vous montrer. 02:50.220 --> 02:51.600 Et, first of all, 02:51.660 --> 02:52.360 je voudrais commencer 02:52.360 --> 02:54.500 « Le monde a besoin d'unité et de paix 02:54.500 --> 02:56.860 plus que jamais. » 02:56.860 --> 02:59.860 Donc, pour démarrer cette présentation 02:59.860 --> 03:01.480 d'activités parmi les heures, 03:01.880 --> 03:07.360 on va commencer par cette idée, 03:07.360 --> 03:11.720 que le monde a besoin d'unité 03:11.720 --> 03:12.940 et de paix plus que jamais. 03:15.600 --> 03:17.300 Muslims, Jews, and Christians 03:17.300 --> 03:18.360 believe in the existence 03:18.360 --> 03:19.960 and unity of God, Allah. 03:21.400 --> 03:23.180 Muslims are not at one pole, 03:23.460 --> 03:24.500 and Jews and Christians 03:24.500 --> 03:26.120 are not at the opposing pole. 03:26.900 --> 03:28.420 One pole represents people 03:28.420 --> 03:29.900 who believe in the existence 03:29.900 --> 03:31.000 and the unity of Allah, 03:31.340 --> 03:32.620 and the other pole represents 03:32.620 --> 03:33.400 the unbelievers. 03:34.240 --> 03:35.560 The unbelievers who believe 03:35.560 --> 03:37.560 in such anti-religious ideologies 03:37.560 --> 03:39.620 is materialism and darwinism. 03:39.620 --> 03:42.520 Donc, les Muslims, les Jews, 03:42.520 --> 03:43.100 et les Chrétiens 03:43.100 --> 03:44.140 croient l'existence 03:44.140 --> 03:45.040 et l'inuité de Dieu. 03:45.480 --> 03:46.680 Allah, pour les Muslims. 03:47.160 --> 03:48.820 Les Muslims ne sont pas un pole, 03:48.880 --> 03:50.060 et les Jews et les Chrétiens 03:50.060 --> 03:51.820 ne sont pas à l'autre pole. 03:52.660 --> 03:54.420 Un pole représente 03:54.420 --> 03:56.460 les gens qui croient 03:56.460 --> 03:57.980 dans l'existence 03:57.980 --> 03:58.720 et l'inuité de Dieu, 03:58.920 --> 03:59.900 et l'autre pole, 04:00.120 --> 04:01.180 ceux qui représentent 04:01.180 --> 04:02.100 les incroyants. 04:02.700 --> 04:03.460 Les incroyants 04:03.460 --> 04:04.600 qui croient 04:04.600 --> 04:05.880 dans de telles 04:05.880 --> 04:07.940 idéologies anti-religieuses 04:07.940 --> 04:09.060 comme le matérialisme 04:09.060 --> 04:10.360 et le darwinisme. 04:12.760 --> 04:14.340 The true solution is 04:14.340 --> 04:15.220 the alliance 04:15.220 --> 04:16.160 of non-believers 04:16.160 --> 04:17.220 can only be defeated 04:17.220 --> 04:18.260 by means 04:18.260 --> 04:19.380 of intellectual struggle 04:19.380 --> 04:20.300 against darwinism 04:20.300 --> 04:21.060 and materialism. 04:21.060 --> 04:29.120 contre les non-croyants 04:29.120 --> 04:35.140 ne peut être défaite 04:35.140 --> 04:37.380 que par le moyen 04:37.380 --> 04:38.780 d'une lutte intellectuelle 04:38.780 --> 04:40.220 contre l'arminisme 04:40.220 --> 04:40.960 et le matérialisme. 04:41.220 --> 04:41.720 Donc, ça ne peut pas 04:41.720 --> 04:42.400 être une alliance 04:42.400 --> 04:44.140 simplement pratique. 04:44.140 --> 04:46.280 Mr. Adnan Oktar 04:46.280 --> 04:47.000 is an advocate 04:47.000 --> 04:47.720 of the unity. 04:48.600 --> 04:49.580 He is a prominent 04:49.580 --> 04:50.380 Turkish intellectual 04:50.380 --> 04:51.860 and world-known creationist. 04:52.200 --> 04:52.840 For years, 04:53.260 --> 04:54.420 you see Mr. Adnan Oktar 04:54.420 --> 04:55.400 with the pen name 04:55.400 --> 04:56.040 Haare Yahya. 04:56.720 --> 04:57.240 For years, 04:57.420 --> 04:58.240 in all his works 04:58.240 --> 04:59.100 and conversations, 04:59.480 --> 05:00.200 Mr. Adnan Oktar 05:00.200 --> 05:01.140 has been advocating 05:01.140 --> 05:01.840 the fact 05:01.840 --> 05:03.020 that Christians 05:03.020 --> 05:03.840 and Muslims 05:03.840 --> 05:05.240 should most definitely 05:05.240 --> 05:06.060 be in unity 05:06.060 --> 05:07.580 in the intellectual struggle 05:07.580 --> 05:09.120 against atheistic 05:09.120 --> 05:10.420 faithless ideologies. 05:11.320 --> 05:12.120 On every occasion, 05:12.240 --> 05:12.840 Mr. Oktar 05:12.840 --> 05:13.940 gives utterance 05:13.940 --> 05:14.660 to the fact 05:14.660 --> 05:15.900 that once Christians 05:15.900 --> 05:16.520 and Muslims 05:16.520 --> 05:18.200 supply a kind of support 05:18.200 --> 05:18.780 to each other, 05:19.200 --> 05:20.080 they will put together 05:20.080 --> 05:21.060 a great power 05:21.060 --> 05:22.440 upon the basis 05:22.440 --> 05:22.980 of love 05:22.980 --> 05:23.720 and brotherhood. 05:25.000 --> 05:26.180 Donc, Adnan Oktar 05:26.180 --> 05:27.520 est un éminent 05:27.520 --> 05:28.700 intellectual turc 05:28.700 --> 05:30.800 et un créationiste 05:30.800 --> 05:31.960 mondialement connu 05:31.960 --> 05:32.860 depuis des années 05:32.860 --> 05:34.180 dans tous les travaux 05:34.180 --> 05:35.300 et ses... 05:35.300 --> 05:35.680 enfin, 05:35.780 --> 05:38.120 ses conférences, 05:38.260 --> 05:39.100 M. Oktar 05:39.100 --> 05:41.540 a, disons, 05:41.720 --> 05:42.780 défendu le fait 05:42.780 --> 05:43.400 que les Christians 05:43.400 --> 05:44.080 et les Muslims 05:44.080 --> 05:44.880 ne devraient pas, 05:45.140 --> 05:45.300 enfin, 05:45.340 --> 05:46.940 devraient définitivement 05:46.940 --> 05:47.760 s'unir 05:47.760 --> 05:49.460 dans une lutte intellectuelle 05:49.460 --> 05:49.840 contre 05:49.840 --> 05:52.680 les idéologies 05:52.680 --> 05:53.800 athées 05:53.800 --> 05:55.060 et sans foi 05:55.060 --> 05:57.280 et dans différentes occasions, 05:57.540 --> 05:58.200 M. Oktar 05:58.200 --> 05:58.800 donne 05:58.800 --> 06:00.940 sa voix 06:00.940 --> 06:01.400 au fait 06:01.400 --> 06:02.540 qu'une fois 06:02.540 --> 06:03.100 que les Christians 06:03.100 --> 06:03.780 et les Muslims 06:03.780 --> 06:05.760 s'apporteront 06:05.760 --> 06:06.340 mutuellement 06:06.340 --> 06:07.160 toutes sortes 06:07.160 --> 06:08.540 d'aides 06:08.540 --> 06:09.640 et ils mettront 06:09.640 --> 06:10.200 ensemble 06:10.200 --> 06:11.760 donc une grande force 06:11.760 --> 06:14.000 au service 06:14.000 --> 06:14.560 de l'amour 06:14.560 --> 06:15.360 et de l'Africain. 06:15.360 --> 06:19.500 Belief in evolution 06:19.500 --> 06:20.540 in Islamic countries 06:20.540 --> 06:21.000 there is 06:21.000 --> 06:21.640 a lot 06:21.640 --> 06:22.260 of Darwinism 06:22.260 --> 06:22.680 in Islamic 06:22.680 --> 06:23.300 countries 06:23.300 --> 06:24.220 courses 06:24.220 --> 06:24.580 on the 06:24.580 --> 06:24.800 theory 06:24.800 --> 06:25.340 of evolution 06:25.340 --> 06:26.000 are mandatory 06:26.000 --> 06:26.800 in universities 06:26.800 --> 06:27.200 in all 06:27.200 --> 06:27.560 Islamic 06:27.560 --> 06:28.140 countries 06:28.140 --> 06:29.040 Belief 06:29.040 --> 06:29.920 in evolutionary 06:29.920 --> 06:30.420 theory 06:30.420 --> 06:31.160 is essential 06:31.160 --> 06:31.980 for having 06:31.980 --> 06:32.460 an academic 06:32.460 --> 06:32.900 career 06:32.900 --> 06:34.140 arguing 06:34.140 --> 06:34.700 against 06:34.700 --> 06:35.580 Darwinism 06:35.580 --> 06:35.960 means 06:35.960 --> 06:36.660 an instant 06:36.660 --> 06:37.100 end on 06:37.100 --> 06:37.480 one's 06:37.480 --> 06:37.860 career 06:37.860 --> 06:39.380 Iran 06:39.380 --> 06:39.920 for example 06:39.920 --> 06:40.340 allows 06:40.340 --> 06:40.800 a great 06:40.800 --> 06:41.060 deal 06:41.060 --> 06:41.680 of coverage 06:41.680 --> 06:42.100 to the 06:42.100 --> 06:42.280 theory 06:42.280 --> 06:42.760 of evolution 06:42.760 --> 06:43.160 in their 06:43.160 --> 06:43.660 curriculum 06:43.660 --> 06:44.980 standing 06:44.980 --> 06:45.420 against 06:45.420 --> 06:45.840 that their 06:45.840 --> 06:46.300 evolution 06:46.300 --> 06:46.760 would be 06:46.760 --> 06:47.140 considered 06:47.140 --> 06:48.120 as unscientific 06:48.120 --> 06:48.460 in these 06:48.460 --> 06:48.940 countries 06:48.940 --> 06:50.400 they try 06:50.400 --> 06:50.820 to reach 06:50.820 --> 06:51.220 a common 06:51.220 --> 06:51.560 ground 06:51.560 --> 06:51.860 between 06:51.860 --> 06:52.300 evolution 06:52.300 --> 06:52.860 and belief 06:52.860 --> 06:54.460 donc 06:54.460 --> 06:54.640 les 06:54.640 --> 06:54.860 pays 06:54.860 --> 06:55.380 musulmans 06:55.380 --> 06:55.820 contrairement 06:55.820 --> 06:56.120 à ce que 06:56.120 --> 06:56.400 certains 06:56.400 --> 06:56.720 pourraient 06:56.720 --> 06:57.040 croire 06:57.040 --> 06:57.340 ne sont 06:57.340 --> 06:57.520 très 06:57.520 --> 06:57.800 différents 06:57.800 --> 06:57.960 des 06:57.960 --> 06:58.300 nôtres 06:58.300 --> 06:59.520 en ce qui 06:59.520 --> 07:00.040 concerne 07:00.040 --> 07:01.480 l'importance 07:01.480 --> 07:02.900 de la 07:02.900 --> 07:03.060 théorie 07:03.060 --> 07:03.480 de l'évolution 07:03.480 --> 07:03.900 puisque 07:03.900 --> 07:05.240 dans ces 07:05.240 --> 07:05.380 pays 07:05.380 --> 07:05.880 musulmans 07:05.880 --> 07:07.060 d'une part 07:07.060 --> 07:08.200 la théorie 07:08.200 --> 07:08.700 de l'évolution 07:08.700 --> 07:10.020 est obligatoire 07:10.020 --> 07:11.000 d'un enseignement 07:11.000 --> 07:11.460 obligatoire 07:11.460 --> 07:12.640 dans les universités 07:12.640 --> 07:13.680 la croyance 07:13.680 --> 07:14.660 dans la théorie 07:14.660 --> 07:15.980 évolutionniste 07:15.980 --> 07:16.660 est essentielle 07:16.660 --> 07:17.080 pour avoir 07:17.080 --> 07:17.540 une carrière 07:17.540 --> 07:18.060 académique 07:18.060 --> 07:18.400 donc c'est 07:18.400 --> 07:18.800 exactement 07:18.800 --> 07:19.420 comme chez nous 07:19.420 --> 07:20.920 et 07:20.920 --> 07:21.760 évidemment 07:21.760 --> 07:23.080 argumenter 07:23.080 --> 07:23.400 contre 07:23.400 --> 07:24.200 l'évolution 07:24.200 --> 07:25.300 signifie 07:25.300 --> 07:25.880 la fin 07:25.880 --> 07:26.480 immédiate 07:26.480 --> 07:27.800 de sa carrière 07:27.800 --> 07:29.540 en Iran 07:29.540 --> 07:30.560 ça c'est 07:30.560 --> 07:31.000 intéressant 07:31.000 --> 07:31.360 pour les 07:31.360 --> 07:33.340 français 07:33.340 --> 07:33.720 parce que 07:33.720 --> 07:34.360 la vision 07:34.360 --> 07:34.740 de l'Iran 07:34.740 --> 07:35.140 que nos 07:35.140 --> 07:35.620 amis ont 07:35.620 --> 07:36.180 est très 07:36.180 --> 07:36.760 très différente 07:36.760 --> 07:37.140 de celle 07:37.140 --> 07:37.940 que l'on a 07:37.940 --> 07:38.240 dans nos 07:38.240 --> 07:38.600 journaux 07:38.600 --> 07:39.820 en fait 07:39.820 --> 07:40.320 l'Iran 07:40.320 --> 07:40.660 attache 07:40.660 --> 07:41.580 une grande 07:41.580 --> 07:42.120 importance 07:42.120 --> 07:43.120 à la 07:43.120 --> 07:43.820 diffusion 07:43.820 --> 07:44.100 de la 07:44.100 --> 07:44.260 théorie 07:44.260 --> 07:44.760 d'évolution 07:44.760 --> 07:45.100 dans 07:45.100 --> 07:45.700 les 07:45.700 --> 07:46.240 curriculums 07:46.240 --> 07:46.720 scolaires 07:46.720 --> 07:47.380 des 07:47.380 --> 07:48.420 étudiants 07:48.420 --> 07:49.620 et 07:49.620 --> 07:51.240 donc 07:51.240 --> 07:52.040 se dresser 07:52.040 --> 07:52.300 contre 07:52.300 --> 07:52.480 la 07:52.480 --> 07:52.680 théorie 07:52.680 --> 07:53.140 d'évolution 07:53.140 --> 07:53.620 comme 07:53.620 --> 07:54.160 font 07:54.160 --> 07:54.520 les 07:54.520 --> 07:54.720 gens 07:54.720 --> 07:55.300 d'Arudiania 07:55.300 --> 07:55.700 seraient 07:55.700 --> 07:56.260 considérés 07:56.260 --> 07:56.500 comme 07:56.500 --> 07:57.520 non-scientifiques 07:57.520 --> 07:58.760 le simple fait 07:58.760 --> 07:58.940 d'être 07:58.940 --> 07:59.480 contre l'évolution 07:59.480 --> 07:59.840 vous êtes 07:59.840 --> 08:00.160 classé 08:00.160 --> 08:00.680 non-scientifique 08:00.680 --> 08:00.860 c'est 08:00.860 --> 08:01.360 exactement 08:01.360 --> 08:01.980 comme 08:01.980 --> 08:02.380 chez nous 08:02.380 --> 08:03.120 et 08:03.120 --> 08:03.620 évidemment 08:03.620 --> 08:06.500 ils essayent 08:06.500 --> 08:07.020 de 08:07.020 --> 08:08.560 de 08:08.560 --> 08:12.300 mélanger 08:12.300 --> 08:13.000 le terrain 08:13.000 --> 08:14.360 dans les 08:14.360 --> 08:14.800 questions 08:14.800 --> 08:15.580 d'évolution 08:15.580 --> 08:16.000 et les 08:16.000 --> 08:16.240 questions 08:16.240 --> 08:16.780 de présence 08:16.780 --> 08:21.720 d'évolution 08:21.720 --> 08:22.320 d'évolution 08:22.320 --> 08:22.880 il y a 08:22.880 --> 08:23.440 300 08:23.440 --> 08:23.940 books 08:23.940 --> 08:24.640 translated 08:24.640 --> 08:24.800 into 08:24.800 --> 08:24.920 more 08:24.920 --> 08:25.060 than 08:25.060 --> 08:25.480 75 08:25.480 --> 08:26.140 languages 08:26.140 --> 08:26.360 and 08:26.360 --> 08:26.760 800 08:26.760 --> 08:27.360 websites 08:27.360 --> 08:28.360 in 08:28.360 --> 08:29.120 1980s 08:29.120 --> 08:29.500 while 08:29.500 --> 08:29.880 Mr. 08:29.880 --> 08:30.240 Adnan 08:30.240 --> 08:30.660 Oktar 08:30.660 --> 08:31.140 was a 08:31.140 --> 08:31.400 student 08:31.400 --> 08:31.620 in 08:31.620 --> 08:31.740 the 08:31.740 --> 08:32.300 university 08:32.300 --> 08:32.900 he 08:32.900 --> 08:33.220 started 08:33.220 --> 08:33.480 his 08:33.480 --> 08:33.820 works 08:33.820 --> 08:33.980 with 08:33.980 --> 08:34.100 a 08:34.100 --> 08:34.360 small 08:34.360 --> 08:34.900 brochure 08:34.900 --> 08:35.440 named 08:35.440 --> 08:35.680 The 08:35.680 --> 08:36.040 Evolution 08:36.040 --> 08:36.500 Deceit 08:36.500 --> 08:37.400 and 08:37.400 --> 08:37.540 in 08:37.540 --> 08:37.660 the 08:37.660 --> 08:37.940 following 08:37.940 --> 08:38.360 years 08:38.360 --> 08:38.560 he 08:38.560 --> 08:38.820 gathered 08:38.820 --> 08:39.240 his 08:39.240 --> 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--> 09:09.000 the 09:09.000 --> 09:09.860 travaux 09:09.860 --> 09:10.060 of 09:10.060 --> 09:10.360 Dan 09:10.360 --> 09:10.880 Oktar 09:10.880 --> 09:11.080 on 09:11.080 --> 09:12.660 contre 09:12.660 --> 09:12.840 la 09:12.840 --> 09:13.020 theory 09:13.020 --> 09:13.100 of 09:13.100 --> 09:13.580 evolution 09:13.580 --> 09:15.920 Mr. 09:15.920 --> 09:16.380 Oktar 09:16.380 --> 09:16.960 in 1980 09:16.960 --> 09:18.180 studied 09:18.180 --> 09:18.260 at 09:18.260 --> 09:18.900 university 09:18.900 --> 09:19.200 and 09:19.200 --> 09:19.340 it 09:19.340 --> 09:19.400 is 09:19.400 --> 09:19.460 at 09:19.460 --> 09:19.560 this 09:19.560 --> 09:19.700 moment 09:19.700 --> 09:20.000 that 09:20.000 --> 09:20.180 he 09:20.180 --> 09:20.740 started 09:20.740 --> 09:20.900 his 09:20.900 --> 09:21.240 work 09:21.240 --> 09:21.560 with 09:21.560 --> 09:21.720 a 09:21.720 --> 09:21.960 little 09:21.960 --> 09:22.420 brochure 09:22.420 --> 09:22.900 called 09:22.900 --> 09:24.040 The 09:24.040 --> 09:24.500 Deception 09:24.500 --> 09:25.160 of 09:25.160 --> 09:25.240 the 09:25.240 --> 09:25.580 Evolution 09:25.580 --> 09:26.520 and 09:26.520 --> 09:26.940 during 09:26.940 --> 09:27.160 the 09:27.160 --> 09:27.420 years 09:27.420 --> 09:28.340 he 09:28.340 --> 09:28.660 he 09:28.660 --> 09:30.660 rassembled 09:30.660 --> 09:31.240 all his 09:31.240 --> 09:31.540 research 09:31.540 --> 09:31.680 in 09:31.680 --> 09:33.080 a 09:33.080 --> 09:33.520 book 09:33.520 --> 09:34.980 called 09:34.980 --> 09:35.580 The 09:35.580 --> 09:35.980 Deception 09:35.980 --> 09:36.480 d'Evolution 09:36.480 --> 09:37.340 this 09:37.340 --> 09:37.940 book 09:37.940 --> 09:38.220 has 09:38.220 --> 09:38.280 been 09:38.280 --> 09:38.600 sold 09:38.600 --> 09:38.820 to 09:38.820 --> 09:39.260 millions 09:39.260 --> 09:39.400 of 09:39.400 --> 09:39.980 examples 09:39.980 --> 09:40.860 with 09:40.860 --> 09:41.220 a 09:41.220 --> 09:41.420 large 09:41.420 --> 09:41.640 number 09:41.640 --> 09:42.220 of 09:42.220 --> 09:42.660 editions 09:42.660 --> 09:42.920 which 09:42.920 --> 09:43.060 have 09:43.060 --> 09:43.160 been 09:43.160 --> 09:44.440 translated 09:44.440 --> 09:44.560 in 09:44.560 --> 09:44.780 a 09:44.780 --> 09:45.040 number 09:45.040 --> 09:45.120 of 09:45.120 --> 09:45.400 languages 09:45.400 --> 09:45.800 which 09:45.800 --> 09:46.620 is 09:46.620 --> 09:46.960 practically 09:46.960 --> 09:47.180 the 09:47.180 --> 09:47.280 same 09:47.280 --> 09:47.760 in 09:47.760 --> 09:47.980 English 09:47.980 --> 09:48.160 and 09:48.160 --> 09:48.320 the 09:48.320 --> 09:48.440 time 09:48.440 --> 09:48.520 you 09:48.520 --> 09:48.560 will 09:48.560 --> 09:48.820 not 09:48.820 --> 09:49.500 and 09:49.500 --> 09:50.020 with 09:50.020 --> 09:50.420 hundreds 09:50.420 --> 09:50.720 of 09:50.720 --> 09:51.140 editions 09:51.140 --> 09:51.460 of 09:51.460 --> 09:51.720 each 09:51.720 --> 09:52.100 of 09:52.100 --> 09:52.380 his 09:52.380 --> 09:52.980 traductions 09:52.980 --> 10:22.980 10:22.980 --> 10:23.180 de 10:23.180 --> 10:23.340 and 10:23.340 --> 10:23.780 Dr 10:23.780 --> 10:24.140 sont 10:24.140 --> 10:25.380 présentés 10:25.380 --> 10:25.600 sur 10:25.600 --> 10:26.380 une 10:26.380 --> 10:26.880 table 10:26.880 --> 10:27.280 à gauche 10:27.280 --> 10:29.420 là-haut 10:29.420 --> 10:30.000 vous pourrez 10:30.000 --> 10:31.320 les compulser 10:31.320 --> 10:32.580 donc il a 10:32.580 --> 10:33.840 au total écrit 10:33.840 --> 10:35.080 99 livres 10:35.080 --> 10:37.140 je ne sais pas si c'est symbolique 10:37.140 --> 10:38.500 ou c'est intéressant 10:38.500 --> 10:40.080 mais c'est impressionnant 10:40.080 --> 10:42.020 qui mettent en évidence 10:42.020 --> 10:43.260 l'invalidité 10:43.260 --> 10:44.420 scientifique 10:44.420 --> 10:45.120 de la théorie 10:45.120 --> 10:45.640 d'évolution 10:45.640 --> 10:46.560 et 10:46.560 --> 10:48.340 75 livres 10:48.340 --> 10:48.980 positifs 10:48.980 --> 10:49.360 cette fois 10:49.360 --> 10:50.440 alors c'est ça qui est intéressant 10:50.440 --> 10:52.400 il y a la critique de l'évolutionnisme 10:52.400 --> 10:53.820 et puis il y a l'affirmation 10:53.820 --> 10:54.720 des 10:54.720 --> 10:56.380 les preuves 10:56.380 --> 10:57.360 parfaites 10:57.360 --> 10:58.100 de la création 10:58.100 --> 11:03.000 par laquelle Dieu a appelé en existence 11:03.000 --> 11:05.140 l'univers et les êtres vivants 11:05.140 --> 11:06.540 et donc 11:06.540 --> 11:08.280 l'invalidité de l'évolution 11:08.280 --> 11:09.840 est discutée dans ses livres 11:09.840 --> 11:11.240 avec un très grand nombre 11:11.240 --> 11:11.940 d'exemples 11:11.940 --> 11:13.980 d'irriments 11:13.980 --> 11:16.780 Arun Yahya 11:16.780 --> 11:17.400 Adnanokta 11:17.400 --> 11:18.700 is an international hero 11:18.700 --> 11:20.580 his books have spread everywhere 11:20.580 --> 11:21.660 in the islamic world 11:21.660 --> 11:22.800 he has developed 11:22.800 --> 11:24.080 developed his own 11:24.080 --> 11:25.020 islamic creationism 11:25.020 --> 11:25.820 this is from 11:25.820 --> 11:26.600 new scientists 11:26.600 --> 11:28.400 22nd april 2001 11:28.400 --> 11:30.160 new scientists 11:30.160 --> 11:30.540 called 11:30.540 --> 11:31.560 Mr Adnanokta 11:31.560 --> 11:32.720 as an international hero 11:32.720 --> 11:33.600 for defeating 11:33.600 --> 11:34.260 Darwinism 11:34.260 --> 11:36.300 donc c'est souvent 11:36.300 --> 11:37.020 chez les adversaires 11:37.020 --> 11:38.760 qu'on est revenus 11:38.760 --> 11:40.760 et c'est si c'est ça 11:40.760 --> 11:41.680 puisque le new scientist 11:41.680 --> 11:43.080 qui évidemment a une revue 11:43.080 --> 11:45.020 complètement révolutionniste 11:45.020 --> 11:46.920 a un jour écrit 11:46.920 --> 11:47.920 en 2001 11:47.920 --> 11:49.180 Arun Yahya 11:49.180 --> 11:50.960 est un héros international 11:50.960 --> 11:52.580 en ce sens 11:52.580 --> 11:53.480 qu'il y a beaucoup de gens 11:53.480 --> 11:55.700 qui marchent derrière lui 11:55.700 --> 11:56.240 ses livres 11:56.240 --> 11:57.720 se sont répandus partout 11:57.720 --> 11:58.680 dans le monde islamique 11:58.680 --> 12:00.880 et il a développé 12:00.880 --> 12:01.640 son propre 12:01.640 --> 12:03.260 créationnisme islamique 12:03.260 --> 12:06.200 and we have also 12:06.200 --> 12:06.640 creation 12:06.640 --> 12:08.280 it's seven kilograms 12:08.280 --> 12:09.360 as you see over here 12:09.360 --> 12:10.420 there is one sample 12:10.420 --> 12:10.960 in the back 12:10.960 --> 12:12.040 you can take a look at it 12:12.040 --> 12:13.280 it consists of 12:13.280 --> 12:14.220 thousands of pictures 12:14.220 --> 12:15.020 of fossils 12:15.020 --> 12:15.960 showing that 12:15.960 --> 12:17.380 there are no transitional forms 12:17.380 --> 12:18.580 and they emerge 12:18.580 --> 12:19.220 all of a sudden 12:19.220 --> 12:20.140 and never change 12:20.140 --> 12:21.520 and now it's no different 12:21.520 --> 12:22.540 than in today's samples 12:22.540 --> 12:23.820 it consists of 12:23.820 --> 12:24.780 seven volumes 12:24.780 --> 12:26.300 each volume has about 12:26.300 --> 12:27.620 750 pages 12:27.620 --> 12:29.040 photographs of 12:29.040 --> 12:31.260 1,500 authentic fossils 12:31.260 --> 12:33.040 a cultural earthquake 12:33.040 --> 12:34.240 impact in the world 12:34.240 --> 12:35.760 worldwide distribution 12:35.760 --> 12:36.720 to academicians 12:36.720 --> 12:37.400 politicians 12:37.400 --> 12:38.960 renowned authors 12:38.960 --> 12:39.780 without a fee 12:39.780 --> 12:40.920 so without a charge 12:40.920 --> 12:41.580 we send hundreds 12:41.580 --> 12:42.560 thousands of copies 12:42.560 --> 12:43.580 of authors of creation 12:43.580 --> 12:45.280 to major academicians 12:45.280 --> 12:46.540 politicians 12:46.540 --> 12:47.860 famous singers 12:47.860 --> 12:48.600 from Rihanna 12:48.600 --> 12:49.420 to Tom Cruise 12:49.420 --> 12:50.060 Obama 12:50.060 --> 12:50.720 Sarkozy 12:50.720 --> 12:51.760 they all get one copy 12:51.760 --> 12:53.400 100,000 copies 12:53.400 --> 12:54.140 for your charge 12:54.140 --> 12:56.100 donc la phase 12:56.100 --> 12:56.760 de la création 12:56.760 --> 12:57.800 par un ouvre 12:57.800 --> 12:58.160 O'Neillian 12:58.160 --> 12:58.900 a été diffusée 12:58.900 --> 12:59.680 dans le monde entier 12:59.680 --> 13:00.640 envoyée gratuitement 13:00.640 --> 13:01.280 en plein de personnes 13:01.280 --> 13:02.040 alors que c'est un 13:02.040 --> 13:04.180 c'est un livre lourd 13:04.180 --> 13:05.180 qui pèse 7 kilos 13:05.180 --> 13:06.600 parce que c'est un grand format 13:06.600 --> 13:07.380 papier glacé 13:07.380 --> 13:08.480 avec énormément de photos 13:08.480 --> 13:09.780 le premier tome 13:09.780 --> 13:10.740 nous avait été présenté 13:10.740 --> 13:11.680 d'ailleurs grâce au docteur 13:11.680 --> 13:12.140 Roulet 13:12.140 --> 13:13.220 au colloque de Bonnel 13:13.220 --> 13:14.120 il y a quelques années 13:14.120 --> 13:15.860 puisqu'il a été envoyé 13:15.860 --> 13:16.340 gratuitement 13:16.340 --> 13:17.340 à tous les lycées de France 13:17.340 --> 13:18.380 donc les professeurs 13:18.380 --> 13:18.820 de biologie 13:18.820 --> 13:19.280 l'avaient 13:19.280 --> 13:20.900 et une collègue 13:20.900 --> 13:21.500 de Torroulet 13:21.500 --> 13:22.520 ne sachant qu'en faire 13:22.520 --> 13:24.440 il avait refilé 13:24.440 --> 13:25.700 donc ces livres 13:25.700 --> 13:26.640 sont très bien illustrés 13:26.640 --> 13:27.280 donc vous pouvez 13:27.280 --> 13:28.640 en consulter 13:28.640 --> 13:29.560 à la sortie 13:29.560 --> 13:32.040 il y a énormément 13:32.040 --> 13:33.740 de photographies fossiles 13:33.740 --> 13:36.100 l'argument est très puissant 13:36.100 --> 13:36.680 c'est-à-dire qu'on voit 13:36.680 --> 13:37.800 un animal 13:37.800 --> 13:38.580 sous forme fossile 13:38.580 --> 13:40.040 sous forme contemporaine 13:40.040 --> 13:40.600 et on constate 13:40.600 --> 13:41.320 que c'est le même 13:41.320 --> 13:42.940 donc si le même animal 13:42.940 --> 13:43.440 fossile 13:43.440 --> 13:46.000 n'a pas changé 13:46.000 --> 13:46.900 entre l'époque 13:46.900 --> 13:47.720 où il a fossilisé 13:47.720 --> 13:48.160 aujourd'hui 13:48.160 --> 13:48.880 c'est qu'il n'y a pas eu 13:48.880 --> 13:49.280 l'évolution 13:49.280 --> 13:49.720 enfin voilà 13:49.720 --> 13:51.560 la démonstration 13:51.560 --> 13:52.100 qu'il démasse 13:52.100 --> 13:52.740 soit son puissant 13:52.740 --> 13:53.620 parce que c'est un fait 13:53.620 --> 13:55.800 les faits ne se démontrent pas 13:55.800 --> 13:56.060 en fait 13:56.060 --> 13:57.300 ni se constatent 13:57.300 --> 13:58.540 et la photographie 13:58.540 --> 13:59.880 est un outil puissant 13:59.880 --> 14:00.300 aujourd'hui 14:00.300 --> 14:02.140 pour le constater 14:02.140 --> 14:05.960 donc là 14:05.960 --> 14:07.300 on a effectivement 14:07.300 --> 14:08.340 résultat 14:08.340 --> 14:11.460 la diffusion 14:11.460 --> 14:11.920 des lumières 14:11.920 --> 14:12.320 en Europe 14:12.320 --> 14:13.400 et effectivement 14:13.400 --> 14:14.460 cette diffusion 14:14.460 --> 14:15.080 par Ronyalia 14:15.080 --> 14:17.040 a été une des causes 14:17.040 --> 14:18.800 de la décision 14:18.800 --> 14:22.080 du Parlement européen 14:22.080 --> 14:23.440 donc il y a maintenant 14:23.440 --> 14:25.260 cinq ans 14:25.260 --> 14:26.360 de prendre 14:26.360 --> 14:27.960 une motion 14:27.960 --> 14:28.920 alors qu'il a été 14:28.920 --> 14:29.620 très très long 14:29.620 --> 14:30.600 à faire voter 14:30.600 --> 14:31.720 il y a des heures 14:31.720 --> 14:32.280 qui n'en savaient pas 14:32.280 --> 14:32.580 ce sujet 14:32.580 --> 14:34.600 puisque ça suivait 14:34.600 --> 14:35.420 une opération 14:35.420 --> 14:35.840 qu'avait faite 14:35.840 --> 14:36.600 Masséa Skirtich 14:36.600 --> 14:37.580 au Parlement européen 14:37.580 --> 14:38.840 une audition 14:38.840 --> 14:39.880 au Parlement européen 14:39.880 --> 14:40.700 sur l'enseignement 14:40.700 --> 14:41.180 de l'évolution 14:41.180 --> 14:41.760 dans l'île d'école 14:41.760 --> 14:43.600 et alors 14:43.600 --> 14:45.100 il y avait eu 14:45.100 --> 14:45.840 donc cette audition 14:45.840 --> 14:46.560 de Masséa Skirtich 14:46.560 --> 14:47.220 il y avait la diffusion 14:47.220 --> 14:47.780 des lumières 14:47.780 --> 14:48.720 et donc 14:48.720 --> 14:50.780 le Parlement européen 14:50.780 --> 14:51.620 a fait une audition 14:51.620 --> 14:53.540 a joué utile 14:53.540 --> 14:54.900 de mettre un frein 14:54.900 --> 14:55.720 à la diffusion 14:55.720 --> 14:57.060 de cet horrible 14:57.060 --> 14:57.780 créationnisme 14:57.780 --> 14:58.480 qui menaçait 14:58.480 --> 14:59.300 et on a 14:59.300 --> 15:00.740 alors ça a été 15:00.740 --> 15:01.440 voté 15:01.440 --> 15:02.420 mais ils n'ont pas eu 15:02.420 --> 15:03.260 la valorie décisante 15:03.260 --> 15:03.680 donc on a 15:03.680 --> 15:04.980 reformaté 15:04.980 --> 15:05.800 une autre commission 15:05.800 --> 15:06.780 qui a fini par voter 15:06.780 --> 15:09.460 à une petite minorité 15:09.460 --> 15:10.260 l'idée que 15:10.260 --> 15:11.220 ces idées 15:11.220 --> 15:12.120 de création 15:12.120 --> 15:12.840 ne pouvaient pas 15:12.840 --> 15:14.560 être enseignées 15:14.560 --> 15:15.140 et puis la liberté 15:15.140 --> 15:16.380 en Europe 15:16.380 --> 15:17.740 mais ne pouvaient pas 15:17.740 --> 15:18.300 être enseignées 15:18.300 --> 15:19.600 dans les cours de science 15:19.600 --> 15:21.000 devaient être enseignées 15:21.000 --> 15:21.840 exclusivement 15:21.840 --> 15:22.760 dans la religion 15:22.760 --> 15:46.340 mais donc il y a eu 15:46.340 --> 15:46.860 effectivement 15:46.860 --> 15:48.300 des réactions 15:48.300 --> 15:49.020 c'est-à-dire que 15:49.020 --> 15:49.860 l'union nationaliste 15:49.860 --> 15:50.540 enfin c'était nu 15:50.540 --> 15:52.880 et d'autre part 15:52.880 --> 15:54.340 un certain nombre 15:54.340 --> 15:55.120 de professeurs 15:55.120 --> 15:56.320 se sentaient agressés 15:56.320 --> 15:57.040 dans les cours 15:57.040 --> 15:58.880 par des étudiants 15:58.880 --> 15:59.880 ou des étudiantes 15:59.880 --> 16:01.140 pas forcément voilés 16:01.140 --> 16:02.180 mais qui posaient 16:02.180 --> 16:02.720 des questions 16:02.720 --> 16:05.340 quand on en parlait 16:05.340 --> 16:05.820 d'évolution 16:05.820 --> 16:06.400 dans les cours 16:06.400 --> 16:07.420 et évidemment 16:07.420 --> 16:08.040 dans l'enseignement 16:08.040 --> 16:08.720 secondaire français 16:08.720 --> 16:09.640 on n'a pas l'habitude 16:09.640 --> 16:11.020 à l'union secondaire 16:11.020 --> 16:12.080 que les étudiants 16:12.080 --> 16:13.060 contestent 16:13.060 --> 16:13.860 l'enseignement 16:13.860 --> 16:14.460 transmis 16:14.460 --> 16:16.340 et là 16:16.340 --> 16:17.220 je dois dire 16:17.220 --> 16:19.360 que les gens 16:19.360 --> 16:20.480 qui ont réagi 16:20.480 --> 16:21.260 de cette façon 16:21.260 --> 16:22.740 contre l'enseignement 16:22.740 --> 16:24.140 d'arméniens 16:24.140 --> 16:24.600 diffusés 16:24.600 --> 16:25.460 à l'enseignement secondaire 16:25.460 --> 16:26.700 sont chez nous 16:26.700 --> 16:27.280 principalement 16:27.280 --> 16:27.880 des musulmans 16:27.880 --> 16:29.180 et peut-être même 16:29.180 --> 16:29.620 principalement 16:29.620 --> 16:30.220 des musulmans 16:30.220 --> 16:31.200 dans les quartiers sensibles 16:31.200 --> 16:31.720 comme on dit 16:31.720 --> 16:33.020 parce que justement 16:33.020 --> 16:34.960 eux ont une conscience 16:34.960 --> 16:35.920 peut-être plus nette 16:35.920 --> 16:36.280 du fait 16:36.280 --> 16:37.100 qu'il y a certaines 16:37.100 --> 16:39.020 que la vérité 16:39.020 --> 16:40.780 entraîne 16:40.780 --> 16:41.960 certains devoirs 16:41.960 --> 16:43.200 et qu'on ne peut pas 16:43.200 --> 16:43.720 accepter 16:43.720 --> 16:44.460 que le professeur 16:44.460 --> 16:45.540 même si c'est le professeur 16:45.540 --> 16:46.600 disent n'importe quoi 16:46.600 --> 16:47.720 d'arméniens 16:47.720 --> 16:51.380 maintenant 16:51.380 --> 16:51.560 encore 16:51.560 --> 16:52.660 le impact 16:52.660 --> 16:53.400 de l'évolution 16:53.400 --> 16:54.600 Haru Yahya 16:54.600 --> 16:55.220 dit 16:55.220 --> 16:55.700 dans sa book 16:55.700 --> 16:57.180 de 700 pages 16:57.180 --> 16:58.100 full de photos 16:58.100 --> 16:59.180 que le théorie 16:59.180 --> 16:59.680 de l'évolution 16:59.680 --> 17:00.280 est false 17:00.280 --> 17:01.200 et il dit 17:01.200 --> 17:01.540 en l'évolution 17:01.540 --> 17:03.100 que Darwin 17:03.100 --> 17:03.740 est la source 17:03.740 --> 17:04.540 de terrorisme 17:04.540 --> 17:05.640 et que Darwin 17:05.640 --> 17:06.840 est responsable 17:06.840 --> 17:08.020 pour l'évolution 17:08.020 --> 17:09.020 d'un des dictators 17:09.020 --> 17:09.780 dans le 20e 17:09.780 --> 17:10.120 siècle 17:10.120 --> 17:10.740 et ceci 17:10.740 --> 17:11.260 est de l'Europe 17:11.260 --> 17:11.900 du conseil 17:11.900 --> 17:12.900 qui a un meeting 17:12.900 --> 17:13.780 et ceci 17:13.780 --> 17:14.400 est le délilien 17:14.400 --> 17:15.920 de la science 17:15.920 --> 17:16.320 section 17:16.320 --> 17:17.420 and that was 17:17.420 --> 17:17.720 about 17:17.720 --> 17:18.060 atos 17:18.060 --> 17:18.700 of creation 17:18.700 --> 17:20.320 oui c'est 17:20.320 --> 17:21.000 Madame Brasseur 17:21.000 --> 17:22.100 de la conseillère 17:22.100 --> 17:23.400 alors donc 17:23.400 --> 17:24.120 dans ce livre 17:24.120 --> 17:24.580 Amorin Yahya 17:24.580 --> 17:25.200 dit qu'il y a 17:25.200 --> 17:25.720 dans le livre 17:25.720 --> 17:26.740 de 700 pages 17:26.740 --> 17:28.100 illustré 17:28.100 --> 17:28.640 que la théorie 17:28.640 --> 17:29.080 de l'évolution 17:29.080 --> 17:29.820 est fausse 17:29.820 --> 17:30.360 et même 17:30.360 --> 17:30.740 que 17:30.740 --> 17:31.460 dans le premier 17:31.460 --> 17:31.740 volume 17:31.740 --> 17:32.640 ça que Darwin 17:32.640 --> 17:33.320 est la source 17:33.320 --> 17:34.240 du terrorisme 17:34.240 --> 17:35.060 que Darwin 17:35.060 --> 17:35.780 est responsable 17:35.780 --> 17:36.220 pour toute 17:36.220 --> 17:37.340 la théorocité 17:37.340 --> 17:38.700 faite par les dictateurs 17:38.700 --> 17:39.660 du 20e 17:39.660 --> 17:39.920 siècle 17:39.920 --> 17:41.760 this is what 17:41.760 --> 17:42.160 she said 17:42.160 --> 17:42.440 actually 17:42.440 --> 17:43.560 that is what 17:43.560 --> 17:44.040 she said 17:44.040 --> 17:45.180 these words 17:45.180 --> 17:45.880 belongs to her 17:45.880 --> 17:46.620 oui effectivement 17:46.620 --> 17:47.060 c'est 17:47.060 --> 17:47.840 c'est 17:47.840 --> 17:48.680 Anne Brasseur 17:48.680 --> 17:49.380 qui dit 17:49.380 --> 17:49.960 que 17:49.960 --> 17:50.500 Arun Yahya 17:50.500 --> 17:50.740 dit 17:50.740 --> 17:51.400 mais en fait 17:51.400 --> 17:52.240 c'est vrai 17:52.240 --> 18:09.820 donc c'est ça 18:09.820 --> 18:10.440 c'est la menace 18:10.440 --> 18:11.120 créationniste 18:11.120 --> 18:11.740 alors il y a eu 18:11.740 --> 18:12.120 dans le set 18:12.120 --> 18:12.740 des articles 18:12.740 --> 18:13.320 sur la menace 18:13.320 --> 18:13.780 créationniste 18:13.780 --> 18:16.560 donc le danger 18:16.560 --> 18:17.320 du créationnisme 18:17.320 --> 18:17.700 en Europe 18:17.700 --> 18:18.420 est-ce qu'il n'y a 18:18.420 --> 18:18.880 pas des dangers 18:18.880 --> 18:19.700 plus importants 18:19.700 --> 18:19.940 en Europe 18:19.940 --> 18:20.440 je ne sais pas 18:20.440 --> 18:22.640 parce que justement 18:22.640 --> 18:23.220 les arunis 18:23.220 --> 18:24.260 se désespèrent 18:24.260 --> 18:26.000 dans la mesure 18:26.000 --> 18:28.440 ils n'ont pas 18:28.440 --> 18:29.800 d'argument scientifique 18:29.800 --> 18:32.040 pour répondre 18:32.040 --> 18:32.860 évidemment 18:32.860 --> 18:35.160 à ceux qui contestent 18:35.160 --> 18:35.620 d'un point de vue 18:35.620 --> 18:36.040 scientifique 18:36.040 --> 18:36.500 l'évolution 18:36.500 --> 19:06.500 19:06.500 --> 19:07.940 this great dream 19:07.940 --> 19:08.940 of pious Europe 19:08.940 --> 19:10.020 will be a reality 19:10.020 --> 19:11.480 I want to repeat 19:11.480 --> 19:12.740 the sentences 19:12.740 --> 19:13.340 the struggle 19:13.340 --> 19:14.040 will be one 19:14.040 --> 19:15.340 this great dream 19:15.340 --> 19:16.240 of pious Europe 19:16.240 --> 19:17.040 will be a reality 19:17.040 --> 19:17.600 this is to 19:17.600 --> 19:18.820 Le Nouvelle Observateur 19:18.820 --> 19:19.960 2009 19:19.960 --> 19:21.360 donc vous voyez 19:21.360 --> 19:21.800 le danger 19:21.800 --> 19:22.200 est peut-être 19:22.200 --> 19:23.400 un passionnant 19:23.400 --> 19:24.720 parce que 19:24.720 --> 19:25.220 dit 19:25.220 --> 19:26.080 cet article 19:26.080 --> 19:26.980 de Le Nouvelle Observateur 19:26.980 --> 19:28.040 donc il s'agit 19:28.040 --> 19:28.840 de la plus grande 19:28.840 --> 19:30.160 offensive créationniste 19:30.160 --> 19:31.400 jamais rencontrée 19:31.400 --> 19:32.000 panique 19:32.000 --> 19:33.100 dans l'éducation 19:33.100 --> 19:33.800 darwinienne 19:33.800 --> 19:35.420 Anna Noctard 19:35.420 --> 19:36.340 est le chef 19:36.340 --> 19:38.280 du mouvement 19:38.280 --> 19:39.720 le plus influent 19:39.720 --> 19:40.360 contre l'évolution 19:40.360 --> 19:41.520 dans le monde musulman 19:41.520 --> 19:42.320 et sa force 19:42.320 --> 19:44.500 de dissuasion 19:44.500 --> 19:45.760 est impressionnante 19:45.760 --> 19:46.800 très efficace 19:46.800 --> 19:48.080 et il n'y a jamais eu 19:48.080 --> 19:50.660 un tel mouvement 19:50.660 --> 19:51.400 anti-darwinien 19:51.400 --> 19:52.100 auparavant 19:52.100 --> 19:52.760 donc si 19:52.760 --> 19:53.140 alors 19:53.140 --> 19:54.500 c'est la chose importante 19:54.500 --> 19:55.400 si les idées 19:55.400 --> 19:56.440 créationnistes 19:56.440 --> 19:58.020 sont victorieuses 19:58.020 --> 19:58.980 dans ces terres 19:58.980 --> 19:59.660 dans nos terres 19:59.660 --> 20:00.800 de philosophie laïque 20:00.800 --> 20:02.760 la bataille 20:02.760 --> 20:03.200 va être 20:03.200 --> 20:04.180 gagnée 20:04.180 --> 20:04.820 par eux 20:04.820 --> 20:05.960 et donc 20:05.960 --> 20:06.760 le grand 20:06.760 --> 20:08.100 rêve 20:08.100 --> 20:08.940 d'Anna Noctard 20:08.940 --> 20:10.080 d'une Europe 20:10.080 --> 20:10.820 pieuse 20:10.820 --> 20:12.440 sera une réalité 20:12.440 --> 20:13.040 finalement 20:13.040 --> 20:14.000 c'est un rêve 20:14.000 --> 20:16.220 enfin pour Le Nouvelle 20:16.220 --> 20:16.720 au sein de l'œuvre 20:16.720 --> 20:18.840 et une vidéo 20:18.840 --> 20:20.300 please 20:20.300 --> 20:30.940 ok 20:30.940 --> 20:31.700 this is a video 20:31.700 --> 20:34.000 that is 20:34.000 --> 20:34.840 Mr. Adnan Oktar 20:34.840 --> 20:35.300 he was 20:35.300 --> 20:35.680 born 20:35.680 --> 20:36.720 1956 20:36.720 --> 20:38.540 in Istanbul 20:38.540 --> 20:39.840 Atlas of Creation 20:39.840 --> 20:40.440 and he has 20:40.440 --> 20:41.320 TV programs 20:41.320 --> 20:42.160 in TV channel 20:42.160 --> 20:42.620 A9 20:42.620 --> 20:43.340 every night 20:43.340 --> 20:44.360 every day 20:44.360 --> 20:45.500 2-4 hours 20:45.500 --> 20:46.760 he talks about 20:46.760 --> 20:47.580 scientific reputation 20:47.580 --> 20:48.480 of Darwinism 20:48.480 --> 20:50.120 and political agenda 20:50.120 --> 20:51.080 and the conflicts 20:51.080 --> 20:51.920 in the Middle East 20:51.920 --> 20:53.140 and many other topics 20:53.140 --> 20:55.160 and he is 20:55.160 --> 20:55.600 the author 20:55.600 --> 20:56.060 of more than 20:56.060 --> 20:56.840 300 books 20:56.840 --> 20:57.500 you see some 20:57.500 --> 20:58.040 over here 20:58.040 --> 20:58.720 and he has 20:58.720 --> 20:59.800 200 documentaries 20:59.800 --> 21:01.600 and 800 websites 21:01.600 --> 21:02.220 this is the 21:02.220 --> 21:03.040 Atlas of Creation 21:03.040 --> 21:04.340 you see thousands 21:04.340 --> 21:05.440 of pictures 21:05.440 --> 21:05.980 clothes 21:05.980 --> 21:08.180 professional photographs 21:08.180 --> 21:08.480 of the 21:08.480 --> 21:09.480 pictures of the 21:09.480 --> 21:09.800 fossils 21:09.800 --> 21:11.420 and in many 21:11.420 --> 21:12.100 journals 21:12.100 --> 21:12.800 and newspapers 21:12.800 --> 21:13.500 there has 21:13.500 --> 21:14.380 been 21:14.380 --> 21:15.220 articles 21:15.220 --> 21:15.700 about 21:15.700 --> 21:16.220 the Atlas 21:16.220 --> 21:16.740 of Creation 21:16.740 --> 21:17.220 this is for 21:17.220 --> 21:17.480 example 21:17.480 --> 21:17.940 from news 21:17.940 --> 21:18.440 scientists 21:18.440 --> 21:19.420 Haru Yahya 21:19.420 --> 21:19.840 Adnan Oktar 21:19.840 --> 21:20.080 is an 21:20.080 --> 21:20.540 international 21:20.540 --> 21:20.960 hero 21:20.960 --> 21:21.540 they said 21:21.540 --> 21:22.340 in 2001 21:22.340 --> 21:24.400 so 21:24.400 --> 21:25.020 Adnan Oktar 21:25.020 --> 21:25.280 est né 21:25.280 --> 21:26.220 en 1956 21:26.220 --> 21:27.720 il a le 21:27.720 --> 21:28.300 très grand 21:28.300 --> 21:28.700 avantage 21:28.700 --> 21:29.580 photogénique 21:29.580 --> 21:30.100 si bien 21:30.100 --> 21:31.260 qu'il passe 21:31.260 --> 21:31.620 très bien 21:31.620 --> 21:32.240 à la télévision 21:32.240 --> 21:33.420 il fait 21:33.420 --> 21:33.760 un grand 21:33.760 --> 21:33.920 nombre 21:33.920 --> 21:34.260 d'émissions 21:34.260 --> 21:34.820 télévision 21:34.820 --> 21:36.780 il se laisse 21:36.780 --> 21:37.720 facilement 21:37.720 --> 21:38.160 mettre 21:38.160 --> 21:39.320 dans les journaux 21:39.320 --> 21:40.600 donc un grand 21:40.600 --> 21:40.940 nombre 21:40.940 --> 21:42.540 de journaux 21:42.540 --> 21:43.120 parlent de lui 21:43.120 --> 21:43.960 parlent de la place 21:43.960 --> 21:44.600 de la création 21:44.600 --> 21:45.960 parlent de ses 21:45.960 --> 21:46.460 travaux 21:46.460 --> 21:47.640 donc il y a 21:47.640 --> 21:47.980 même le 21:47.980 --> 21:49.020 national géomartique 21:49.020 --> 21:51.700 ces journaux 21:51.700 --> 21:52.860 sont bien obligés 21:52.860 --> 21:53.600 de parler 21:53.600 --> 21:54.780 d'un phénomène 21:54.780 --> 21:55.400 qui atteint 21:55.400 --> 21:57.440 une telle dimension 21:57.440 --> 21:59.820 this again 21:59.820 --> 22:00.960 from National Geographic 22:00.960 --> 22:02.160 Islamic creation 22:02.160 --> 22:02.680 is such as 22:02.680 --> 22:03.160 Haru Yahya 22:03.160 --> 22:03.940 Adnan Oktar 22:03.940 --> 22:04.920 author of a recent 22:04.920 --> 22:05.520 volume titled 22:05.520 --> 22:06.040 The Evolution 22:06.040 --> 22:06.440 Deceed 22:06.440 --> 22:07.300 who calls 22:07.300 --> 22:07.640 the period 22:07.640 --> 22:08.080 of evolution 22:08.080 --> 22:08.500 nothing 22:08.500 --> 22:09.620 but a deception 22:09.620 --> 22:10.460 imposed on us 22:10.460 --> 22:11.320 by the dominators 22:11.320 --> 22:11.860 of the world 22:11.860 --> 22:12.260 system 22:12.260 --> 22:13.100 that was from 22:13.100 --> 22:13.980 National Geographic 22:13.980 --> 22:30.140 you see different 22:30.140 --> 22:31.440 translations of the 22:31.440 --> 22:32.200 creation atlas 22:32.200 --> 22:33.920 and thousands of news 22:33.920 --> 22:34.980 that you see over here 22:34.980 --> 22:36.700 this is Washington Post 22:36.700 --> 22:37.440 and Der Spiegel 22:37.440 --> 22:38.360 The New York Times 22:38.360 --> 22:38.840 Stern 22:38.840 --> 22:39.820 Economist 22:39.820 --> 22:40.340 Le Monde 22:40.340 --> 22:41.740 CBS News 22:41.740 --> 22:42.820 all of them 22:42.820 --> 22:44.140 talked about 22:44.140 --> 22:45.100 the office of creation 22:45.100 --> 22:45.920 and its impact 22:45.920 --> 22:46.740 voilà donc 22:46.740 --> 22:47.960 Haru Yahya 22:47.960 --> 22:48.860 a su se servir 22:48.860 --> 22:50.940 de la mode journalistique 22:50.940 --> 22:51.360 qui fait que 22:51.360 --> 22:52.240 quand on parle d'un sujet 22:52.240 --> 22:52.620 tout le monde 22:52.620 --> 22:53.480 est obligé d'en parler 22:53.480 --> 22:54.680 évidemment 22:54.680 --> 22:55.420 là il faut reconnaître 22:55.420 --> 22:56.300 qu'il y a un savoir-faire 22:56.300 --> 22:56.980 médiatique 22:56.980 --> 22:58.900 du côté de nos amis turcs 22:58.900 --> 23:00.980 qui est impressionnant 23:00.980 --> 23:03.460 donc il s'agit 23:03.460 --> 23:04.400 vraiment d'une offensive 23:04.400 --> 23:05.560 d'une offensive 23:05.560 --> 23:06.840 positive 23:06.840 --> 23:08.120 c'est une offensive 23:08.120 --> 23:09.240 contre l'athéisme 23:09.240 --> 23:10.040 contre les gens 23:10.040 --> 23:10.880 qui ne croient à rien 23:10.880 --> 23:12.820 et c'est quelque chose 23:12.820 --> 23:13.260 qui est quand même 23:13.260 --> 23:13.580 sanitaire 23:13.580 --> 23:15.320 some of the 23:15.320 --> 23:15.900 for example 23:15.900 --> 23:16.780 French newspaper 23:16.780 --> 23:17.540 says it's like 23:17.540 --> 23:18.400 an atomic bomb 23:18.400 --> 23:19.460 some of them 23:19.460 --> 23:20.420 said it is like 23:20.420 --> 23:21.180 an earthquake 23:21.180 --> 23:24.000 la presse française 23:24.000 --> 23:24.720 dit c'est comme 23:24.720 --> 23:25.520 une bombe atomique 23:25.520 --> 23:26.700 ou un tremblement de terre 23:26.700 --> 23:32.700 next slide please 23:32.700 --> 23:38.780 ok 23:38.780 --> 23:43.740 he also invited 23:43.740 --> 23:44.780 the prominent 23:44.780 --> 23:46.040 Richard Dawkins 23:46.040 --> 23:46.540 to Turkey 23:46.540 --> 23:47.360 for a debate 23:47.360 --> 23:48.560 Mr. Adnan Oktar 23:48.560 --> 23:49.820 this is from 23:49.820 --> 23:50.820 the 23:50.820 --> 23:51.720 in times 23:51.720 --> 23:52.740 newspaper 23:52.740 --> 23:53.120 of 23:53.120 --> 23:54.140 United Kingdom 23:54.140 --> 23:55.080 that is 23:55.080 --> 23:55.820 commercial 23:55.820 --> 23:56.940 advertising 23:56.940 --> 23:58.300 of Mr. Adnan Oktar 23:58.300 --> 23:58.700 he said 23:58.700 --> 23:59.160 a call 23:59.160 --> 24:00.140 to Richard Dawkins 24:00.140 --> 24:01.600 Richard Dawkins 24:01.600 --> 24:02.380 has on many 24:02.380 --> 24:03.400 previous occasions 24:03.400 --> 24:04.180 been invited 24:04.180 --> 24:05.160 to Mr. Adnan Oktar 24:05.160 --> 24:05.860 Harun Yahya 24:05.860 --> 24:07.360 to a face-to-face 24:07.360 --> 24:08.180 public debate 24:08.180 --> 24:09.120 in which the 24:09.120 --> 24:09.920 scientific evidence 24:09.920 --> 24:10.780 is brought together 24:10.780 --> 24:11.980 but Dawkins 24:11.980 --> 24:13.020 has always replied 24:13.020 --> 24:13.820 I have sworn 24:13.820 --> 24:14.560 not to debate 24:14.560 --> 24:15.760 Dawkins 24:15.760 --> 24:16.300 subsequent 24:16.300 --> 24:17.060 selection 24:17.060 --> 24:17.680 of secondary 24:17.680 --> 24:18.660 school students 24:18.660 --> 24:19.800 an evangelical 24:19.800 --> 24:20.440 clergy 24:20.440 --> 24:20.980 of debate 24:20.980 --> 24:21.820 which was 24:21.820 --> 24:22.580 as attracted 24:22.580 --> 24:23.780 considerable notice 24:23.780 --> 24:24.180 however 24:24.180 --> 24:25.700 in other words 24:25.700 --> 24:26.920 he has no excuse 24:26.920 --> 24:27.620 or explanation 24:27.620 --> 24:28.400 for not taking 24:28.400 --> 24:29.080 part in such 24:29.080 --> 24:29.540 a debate 24:29.540 --> 24:30.400 therefore 24:30.400 --> 24:31.180 once again 24:31.180 --> 24:32.040 Mr. Adnan Oktar 24:32.040 --> 24:33.160 invites Richard Dawkins 24:33.160 --> 24:34.440 to a face-to-face 24:34.440 --> 24:34.820 debate 24:34.820 --> 24:35.320 accompanied 24:35.320 --> 24:35.760 by the 24:35.760 --> 24:36.580 scientific evidence 24:36.580 --> 24:37.120 but he 24:37.120 --> 24:37.920 escaped again 24:37.920 --> 24:39.980 Dawkins 24:39.980 --> 24:41.100 c'est un biologiste 24:41.100 --> 24:41.640 d'Oxford 24:41.640 --> 24:42.740 qui est très connu 24:42.740 --> 24:43.080 dans le monde 24:43.080 --> 24:43.740 anglo-saxon 24:43.740 --> 24:44.940 dont les livres 24:44.940 --> 24:45.460 sont traduits 24:45.460 --> 24:45.800 en français 24:45.800 --> 24:46.220 bien sûr 24:46.220 --> 24:47.100 c'est un athée 24:47.100 --> 24:47.960 convaincu 24:47.960 --> 24:49.440 qui est extrêmement 24:49.440 --> 24:51.020 agressif 24:51.020 --> 24:51.500 en fait 24:51.500 --> 24:52.880 dans sa critique 24:52.880 --> 24:53.880 en particulier 24:53.880 --> 24:54.900 des anti-évolutionnistes 24:54.900 --> 24:55.620 et 24:55.620 --> 24:56.760 Adnan Oktar 24:56.760 --> 24:57.960 a défié 24:57.960 --> 24:59.340 Dawkins 24:59.340 --> 24:59.760 de 24:59.760 --> 25:02.060 débattre avec lui 25:02.060 --> 25:03.160 et Dawkins 25:03.160 --> 25:03.660 comme 25:03.660 --> 25:05.260 le font 25:05.260 --> 25:05.560 d'ailleurs 25:05.560 --> 25:06.440 les évolutionnistes 25:06.440 --> 25:06.960 américains 25:06.960 --> 25:07.860 dans cette série 25:07.860 --> 25:08.160 c'est la même chose 25:08.160 --> 25:08.920 c'est la même tactique 25:08.920 --> 25:09.260 partout 25:09.260 --> 25:10.080 en fait 25:10.080 --> 25:11.180 on refuse le débat 25:11.180 --> 25:14.080 en considérant 25:14.080 --> 25:14.540 que 25:14.540 --> 25:17.020 l'opposant 25:17.020 --> 25:18.040 n'est pas digne 25:18.040 --> 25:19.060 du débat 25:19.060 --> 25:20.680 mais le résultat 25:20.680 --> 25:20.920 c'est que 25:20.920 --> 25:21.580 le débat n'a pas lieu 25:21.580 --> 25:22.360 donc l'échange 25:22.360 --> 25:23.200 d'argument n'a pas lieu 25:23.200 --> 25:25.300 qui est quand même 25:25.300 --> 25:26.400 une solution 25:26.400 --> 25:26.980 un peu facile 25:26.980 --> 25:29.340 d'argument zit 25:29.340 --> 25:34.720 Mais c'est le prix de l'offre 25:34.720 --> 25:36.000 par référent Darwinism. 25:36.860 --> 25:38.400 Muslin creationist Adnan Oktar 25:38.400 --> 25:40.800 challenges scientists to prove evolution. 25:41.780 --> 25:42.720 Almost 100 million 25:42.720 --> 25:44.440 fossils have been unearthed so far. 25:44.780 --> 25:46.280 All of these show that plants, 25:46.840 --> 25:48.600 animals, humans and insects have never 25:48.600 --> 25:50.380 undergone evolution whatsoever. 25:50.860 --> 25:52.540 And they were all created in the same way 25:52.540 --> 25:54.500 by God. We can see this fact 25:54.500 --> 25:55.840 in each fossil we come across. 25:56.340 --> 25:58.180 There is no fossil proving the contrary. 25:58.180 --> 25:59.920 If they can't show one, 26:00.180 --> 26:02.640 I will reward them 1 trillion Turkish lirat. 26:02.720 --> 26:05.660 This is 4.4 trillion pounds. 26:05.940 --> 26:08.800 Or about 7 million American dollars. 26:08.980 --> 26:10.100 I don't know how many euros it is. 26:10.240 --> 26:11.260 I had to calculate. 26:12.000 --> 26:14.000 So that was about 4 years ago. 26:14.280 --> 26:15.940 You know what happened? Nobody has appeared. 26:16.380 --> 26:19.000 Because there is not even a single transitional form. 26:19.880 --> 26:21.080 Creationist Adnan Oktar offers 26:21.080 --> 26:22.900 trillion pound price for the fossil 26:22.900 --> 26:25.180 proof of evolution. This is in telegraph, for example. 26:26.020 --> 26:26.800 You see in telegraph, 26:26.800 --> 26:28.220 the creationist Adnan Oktar offers 26:28.220 --> 26:30.980 trillion pound price for fossil proof of evolution. 26:31.480 --> 26:32.920 This is another newspaper. 26:33.140 --> 26:34.980 It says about this price 26:34.980 --> 26:36.700 for a single transitional form. 26:36.700 --> 26:38.660 Well, there is the challenge of the debate. 26:38.660 --> 26:42.160 And then, there is a challenge of the price 26:42.160 --> 26:46.380 for the possible transition 26:46.380 --> 26:49.080 or the price of the fabuleux 26:49.080 --> 26:52.040 which offers absolutely no risk 26:52.040 --> 26:54.340 for the people who propose to pay it. 26:54.440 --> 26:55.840 Because there is a chance, 26:56.260 --> 26:58.260 there is no reason for it 26:58.260 --> 27:00.920 that we obtain the proof of evolution. 27:00.920 --> 27:10.920 So nobody has appeared. 27:11.080 --> 27:12.760 That means no transitional forms. 27:13.340 --> 27:14.060 No evolution. 27:14.060 --> 27:15.480 Well, because no one has responded 27:15.480 --> 27:15.980 to the office, 27:16.100 --> 27:17.860 it's good that there is no form of transition. 27:18.640 --> 27:19.360 Because if we call them 27:19.360 --> 27:19.940 for the missing people, 27:20.020 --> 27:21.240 it's good because they are missing people. 27:21.240 --> 27:33.240 This is in Rotterdam, Poland. 27:33.700 --> 27:34.960 Announcement of Haru Yahya, 27:35.220 --> 27:36.320 you will see on the bosses, 27:37.000 --> 27:37.260 God, 27:37.420 --> 27:40.640 God bestad, 27:40.920 --> 27:42.460 that means God exists 27:42.460 --> 27:44.080 and with his pictures 27:44.080 --> 27:45.100 and his books 27:45.100 --> 27:46.160 on the bosses, 27:46.260 --> 27:46.860 many bosses 27:46.860 --> 27:48.140 in Rotterdam. 27:48.960 --> 27:49.660 God exists. 27:49.660 --> 27:53.500 So, in other than the classic media, 27:53.620 --> 27:55.540 there are also techniques of editing 27:55.540 --> 27:59.460 on buses, 27:59.600 --> 28:00.220 God exists. 28:01.240 --> 28:03.280 Well, it's obviously more American 28:03.280 --> 28:04.440 than French. 28:06.700 --> 28:08.360 So, it exists. 28:08.780 --> 28:11.500 It's a place to say that God exists. 28:11.500 --> 28:22.840 In many buses that has been in the city 28:22.840 --> 28:23.700 for many days, 28:23.840 --> 28:24.700 they have been traveling, 28:24.880 --> 28:25.380 these buses. 28:26.100 --> 28:27.860 So, it's been a long time. 28:31.380 --> 28:31.900 Okay. 28:32.420 --> 28:33.560 And this is from London, 28:33.820 --> 28:35.040 United Kingdom, London, 28:35.440 --> 28:36.800 and London, United Kingdom. 28:37.220 --> 28:39.080 Modern science declares God exists 28:39.080 --> 28:39.700 on the bosses. 28:39.840 --> 28:40.720 You see many bosses 28:40.720 --> 28:41.920 for many days, 28:42.340 --> 28:43.440 they traveled in London, 28:43.720 --> 28:44.220 God exists. 28:44.400 --> 28:45.460 Modern science demonstrates 28:45.460 --> 28:46.340 that God exists. 28:46.340 --> 29:05.800 And this is from the humanist, 29:06.200 --> 29:07.400 comment by a new humanist. 29:07.400 --> 29:08.960 islamic creationist, 29:09.540 --> 29:10.560 Adnan Oktar launches 29:10.560 --> 29:11.660 London bus campaign, 29:11.740 --> 29:12.080 it says. 29:12.500 --> 29:14.020 There is not really a great deal 29:14.020 --> 29:15.720 to say about the ads themselves, 29:16.220 --> 29:17.540 other than that they say 29:17.540 --> 29:18.740 modern science demonstrates 29:18.740 --> 29:19.500 that God exists, 29:19.620 --> 29:20.120 new humanist, 29:20.180 --> 29:21.460 in the 80s magazine. 29:21.460 --> 29:22.460 And this is a great deal. 29:22.460 --> 29:22.860 And this is very interesting. 29:22.860 --> 29:23.660 New humanist, 29:23.740 --> 29:24.000 it's a great deal. 29:24.000 --> 29:24.060 It's a great deal, 29:24.060 --> 29:24.460 but it's a great deal. 29:24.460 --> 29:24.840 It's a great deal. 29:24.840 --> 29:25.840 and it's a great deal. 29:25.840 --> 29:26.520 It's a great deal. 29:26.520 --> 29:27.920 It's a great deal. 29:27.920 --> 29:38.040 Pour que ma réaction à cette campagne d'affiches sur les musulmans, on dit qu'il n'y a pas grand chose à dire au propos de ces affiches, 29:38.180 --> 29:43.820 si ce n'est qu'elles disent la science moderne des contre-cudiosistes. Voilà les arguments en réponse. 29:57.920 --> 29:59.740 En France, again, please. 30:01.960 --> 30:07.860 Okay, this is going to show Australia, for example, Melbourne, Australia, the conferences we did in Australia, 30:09.500 --> 30:15.180 Sydney Community Hall, you see in Azerbaijan, Baku, Azerbaijan, 30:16.400 --> 30:21.960 the conferences we did about against Darwinism, scientific gravitation of Darwinism and the fact of creation. 30:21.960 --> 30:27.960 Many conferences over the years, over more than 10 years, in Africa, for example, 30:28.360 --> 30:31.640 Al-Badi School, Cape Town, Africa, you see the conferences we did. 30:35.020 --> 30:40.720 Melbourne, Africa, Johannesburg, Africa, conferences we did. 30:41.420 --> 30:47.820 And then this is from Brunei, another country, China, Islamic Union, China, Indonesia, 30:48.340 --> 30:51.760 Andalas University, Indonesia, that we did conferences in Indonesia, you see. 30:51.960 --> 31:00.860 This is Indonesia conferences, many times, not only once, these are only samples from them in Indonesia. 31:01.300 --> 31:06.260 France, for example, in Lyon, France, these conferences we did in France. 31:07.660 --> 31:17.040 Marseille Conference, Paris, you see, the conferences over here in France. 31:17.040 --> 31:24.480 And the fast exhibitions that you see, these are the fast exhibitions we did, Strasbourg, France. 31:24.480 --> 31:31.960 But it's certain that there, there is a very important thing, it's that in the mosquets français, 31:33.000 --> 31:37.900 if we are anti-darmenian, we are musulman, we ask to make an exposition possible, 31:38.160 --> 31:40.680 or to make an conference, we can do it. 31:41.700 --> 31:44.600 So there is a very big dissimetry on this point, if you will, 31:44.600 --> 31:53.380 between the position of the anti-évolutionists in the Christian world who is intellectually preoccupied by the Armenians, 31:53.500 --> 31:59.100 and who feels immediately the danger to all the information. 31:59.100 --> 32:06.400 In the world musulman, for reasons which would be interesting to deepen, which are a lot of things, 32:06.900 --> 32:11.300 we don't have these same immediate reactions of barriers. 32:11.620 --> 32:21.340 Maybe because the liens between intellect and the piété are not the same in Islam and in the Christianism. 32:21.340 --> 32:27.340 And the teyardism has really invested in the theology contemporaine, 32:27.900 --> 32:32.240 so that the people who would like to renounce the evolutionism 32:32.240 --> 32:34.620 are led to their own religion. 32:35.360 --> 32:40.780 Because they were told that it was true, they had adapted their faith in religion to the evolution, 32:41.360 --> 32:46.220 and so to return to the evolution, for them, it will change the whole world. 32:46.220 --> 32:50.780 So it's a secret, and to prove that it's something that we can demand for years. 32:51.780 --> 32:55.880 And, of course, we don't see this kind of barrier in Islam. 32:57.120 --> 32:59.840 You see, conferences are still going on. 33:00.300 --> 33:01.720 I did more than a thousand conferences, 33:02.500 --> 33:05.300 but colleagues Saddam also had more than a thousand conferences all over the world. 33:06.580 --> 33:10.600 So this is again in France, the French conferences that Saddam did. 33:11.000 --> 33:13.100 Actually, these are the Fast Leg Book exhibitions, 33:13.100 --> 33:16.160 and the Gymnasium Maribel Theater. 33:17.160 --> 33:20.600 Non, c'était une premièrement donnée par Alissa Levengin, 33:20.700 --> 33:24.760 qui est parmi nous, l'autre Turc, voilà, qui est renais ici. 33:31.100 --> 33:32.720 And this is from Vatican. 33:32.980 --> 33:33.820 I was in Vatican. 33:34.660 --> 33:39.060 The Vatican organized the Diatinist conferences in Rome in 2009. 33:40.100 --> 33:41.680 They did not accept creationists. 33:41.680 --> 33:46.060 We applied to be, as a speaker, from creationist perspective. 33:46.400 --> 33:49.840 You know, Vatican is a Christian center, center of Christianity. 33:50.520 --> 33:54.380 So they should be organizing the conference with atheists, 33:54.540 --> 33:56.300 who denies the existence of God. 33:56.840 --> 33:59.560 And at least they should let the creationists in this conference 33:59.560 --> 34:01.700 give them scientific evidence which is futileism. 34:01.960 --> 34:02.920 But they rejected it. 34:03.560 --> 34:04.560 They said to us, 34:04.740 --> 34:08.240 you can come and you can ask questions in the scientific discussion part. 34:08.240 --> 34:31.580 So I went there with a friend of mine who was recording the video. 34:31.580 --> 34:32.540 So I was asked, 34:32.680 --> 34:34.200 I raised my hand to ask a question. 34:34.800 --> 34:36.460 They asked me to come to the microphone. 34:37.240 --> 34:38.320 There were like a thousand people, 34:38.460 --> 34:39.200 all Darwinists. 34:39.380 --> 34:42.520 And the 15 most prominent Darwinists of the world were sitting there, 34:42.620 --> 34:44.000 including Douglas Futuma, 34:44.620 --> 34:45.660 Francisco Ayala, 34:46.300 --> 34:47.640 and Lynn Margulis, 34:47.800 --> 34:50.340 many Simon Convey-Morris. 34:50.340 --> 34:53.400 most Darwinists were in this room. 34:53.400 --> 34:55.820 So there were about 3,000 people. 34:56.000 --> 34:58.080 It was really a great international conference. 34:58.840 --> 35:00.080 And especially in the intervenants, 35:00.220 --> 35:03.460 Futuma and Francisco Ayala, 35:03.600 --> 35:05.400 who are very, very famous evolutionists. 35:06.280 --> 35:07.160 And so, 35:08.300 --> 35:09.800 Oktar Valmuna 35:09.800 --> 35:12.480 gave his hand to ask a question. 35:12.640 --> 35:13.620 He approached the microphone. 35:15.220 --> 35:15.800 I'm sorry. 35:17.060 --> 35:18.640 Can I show you a video, please? 35:18.640 --> 35:19.860 It's not a mini-like sound, 35:19.980 --> 35:21.040 but it's a sound of a video. 35:21.360 --> 35:23.600 I can do it with the microphone. 35:24.820 --> 35:25.620 Well, apparently, 35:25.900 --> 35:27.800 they were two, 35:27.960 --> 35:31.680 so the other filmed the incident, 35:31.820 --> 35:32.440 as you will see, 35:33.180 --> 35:34.880 and as there is the sound, 35:34.960 --> 35:36.840 we're trying to project the sound 35:36.840 --> 35:37.700 in the same time as the image. 35:38.680 --> 35:39.880 Well, I remember very well 35:39.880 --> 35:41.000 having seen this episode 35:41.000 --> 35:43.000 on Rutteur at the time, 35:43.540 --> 35:44.960 because it was quite interesting. 35:45.600 --> 35:46.200 But on the other hand, 35:46.200 --> 35:47.020 it was innovative, 35:47.020 --> 35:50.740 because what I saw on the internet, 35:50.940 --> 35:52.420 and so I didn't understand, 35:52.740 --> 35:53.020 I didn't understand, 35:53.020 --> 35:55.980 I didn't understand what questions 35:55.980 --> 35:56.540 they were asking. 35:56.540 --> 35:58.540 Well, 35:58.540 --> 36:28.520 Quel est ça ? 36:28.540 --> 36:42.840 Donc je répète, on est dans une conférence internationale de grand niveau. 36:58.540 --> 37:00.540 ... 37:00.540 --> 37:02.540 ... 37:02.540 --> 37:04.540 ... 37:04.540 --> 37:08.540 ... 37:08.540 --> 37:14.540 ... 37:14.540 --> 37:16.540 ... 37:16.540 --> 37:18.540 ... 37:18.540 --> 37:20.540 ... 37:20.540 --> 37:26.540 ... 37:26.540 --> 37:28.540 ... 37:28.540 --> 37:30.540 ... 37:30.540 --> 37:32.540 ... 37:32.540 --> 37:34.540 ... 37:34.540 --> 37:36.540 ... 37:36.540 --> 37:38.540 ... 37:38.540 --> 37:40.540 ... 37:40.540 --> 37:42.540 ... 37:42.540 --> 37:44.540 ... 37:44.540 --> 37:48.540 ... 37:48.540 --> 37:54.540 ... 37:54.540 --> 37:58.540 ... 37:58.540 --> 38:00.540 ... 38:00.540 --> 38:02.540 ... 38:02.540 --> 38:04.540 ... 38:04.540 --> 38:06.540 ... 38:06.540 --> 38:26.540 ... 38:26.540 --> 38:40.540 ... 38:40.540 --> 38:44.540 ... 38:44.540 --> 38:46.540 ... 38:46.540 --> 38:48.540 ... 38:48.540 --> 38:50.540 ... 38:50.540 --> 38:52.540 ... 38:52.540 --> 38:54.540 ... 38:54.540 --> 38:58.540 ... 38:58.540 --> 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--> 41:08.540 ... 41:08.540 --> 41:10.540 ... 41:10.540 --> 41:14.540 ... 41:14.540 --> 41:16.540 ... 41:16.540 --> 41:20.540 ... 41:20.540 --> 41:22.540 ... 41:22.540 --> 41:24.540 ... 41:24.540 --> 41:26.540 ... 41:26.540 --> 41:27.540 ... 41:28.200 --> 41:28.540 ... 41:28.540 --> 41:30.540 ... 41:30.540 --> 41:33.660 Donc le droit à la virilité fait partie de toute humiliation. 42:00.540 --> 42:09.300 Alors donc évidemment, il n'y avait pas de réponse à l'argument, il ne pouvait pas y avoir de réponse. 42:09.300 --> 42:20.340 Ce qu'il n'avait pas vu, c'est toujours, c'est qu'il y avait le Ganarad qui filmait l'incident, et la vidéo a été transmise à l'agence Reuters un peu après. 42:20.340 --> 42:25.140 Évidemment ça, les organisateurs n'avaient pas vu venir. 42:25.140 --> 42:30.140 Et Reuters said, the conference in Vatican is being very anti-democratic. 42:30.140 --> 42:36.140 Donc par exemple, la conférence du Vatican est tout à fait anti-évacité. 42:36.140 --> 42:41.140 OK. 42:41.140 --> 42:45.140 One minute, on finit. 42:45.140 --> 42:47.140 One minute, OK. 42:47.140 --> 42:52.140 And other works of Harajah has of March 2011, Abu Proudes. 42:52.140 --> 43:00.140 All the newspapers talk about the works of Harajah, Atlas of Creation, and the bloat against Darwinism. 43:00.140 --> 43:07.140 And in 50 countries, his books are sold in the bookstores. 43:07.140 --> 43:20.140 And he has live lectures on four simultaneous translations, English, French, German and Russian, in TV Channel A9. 43:20.140 --> 43:22.140 You can watch it in the website. 43:22.140 --> 43:27.140 If you go to harunyahia.com or this website, click on that. 43:27.140 --> 43:33.140 You can watch his TV programs live in English, French, German or Russian. 43:33.140 --> 43:47.140 These programs are being followed by about 30 million people that are watching his TV programs. 43:47.140 --> 43:52.140 Not only in Turkey, in Europe, in the US, in Far East, in the Middle East, and Russia. 43:52.140 --> 44:07.140 And by the view of Allah, the complete works of Harajah will continue to increase the fervour and enthusiasm in the world, 44:07.140 --> 44:13.140 and call people to Islam in the 21st century, to religion in the 21st century. 44:13.140 --> 44:42.140 Yes, yes. 44:43.140 --> 44:55.580 Donc, à titre de conclusion, par la volonté d'Allah, l'ensemble des travaux d'Hermoun Yahya 44:55.580 --> 45:00.620 va continuer à se diffuser et à augmenter la ferveur et l'enthousiasme dans le monde 45:00.620 --> 45:06.300 et à fer le monde à l'islam pour le XXIe siècle. 45:06.660 --> 45:10.100 Donc, c'est la conclusion de notre ami Hector Babouna, ce n'est pas le cas d'hier. 45:10.100 --> 45:16.840 Alors, c'est le temps pour notre alliance, muslims, chrétiens et jews, 45:16.940 --> 45:20.540 qui s'est venu ensemble comme ceci, et qui s'est venu contre l'arminisme, 45:21.280 --> 45:28.120 et la bonne morale, la religion de trois religions, compassion, mercy, love, tolerance et justice, 45:28.640 --> 45:36.100 qui s'est venu à l'intérieur de l'Hermon, entre l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon. 45:36.100 --> 45:38.340 Donc, notre alliance est très importante. 45:38.500 --> 45:43.840 Nous aimons les chrétiens, nous aimons les gens de l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon et l'Hermon. 45:43.840 --> 45:49.980 Allah dit que les monastres, les chrétiens, les synagogues et les mosques sont des places pour être protégés. 45:49.980 --> 46:12.460 Donc, pour ce 21e siècle, avec nous qui attendons le retour de Jésus et de Nazie, nous espérons un monde de tolérance, d'entraide, dans lequel il y aura charité réciproque, protection de tous les lieux de culte, évidemment, c'est ce monde que nous souhaitons réaliser avec vous. 46:12.460 --> 46:17.360 Et merci beaucoup, c'était un plaisir et un honneur d'être ici. 46:17.600 --> 46:19.160 Encore une fois, nous vous invitons à la Turquie. 46:19.160 --> 46:22.160 Merci beaucoup. 46:42.460 --> 46:47.800 Je remercie les intervenants de votre présentation, qui est toujours impressionnante. 46:48.140 --> 47:02.380 Alors, effectivement, être anti-évolutionniste, c'est bien et c'est la vérité sur la Terre, mais pour aller au ciel, le problème, vous avez parlé beaucoup de Dieu et de Jésus, 47:02.380 --> 47:18.040 mais Dieu, bon, que je sache, c'est la très sainte Trinité, Dieu est esprit et notre Seigneur s'est incarné, le Verbe de Dieu, la deuxième personne de la très sainte Trinité, Jésus. 47:18.040 --> 47:26.220 Quand j'ai entendu, quand j'ai entendu le premier interlocuteur dire que Jésus n'était pas mort, Jésus est mort sur la croix pour sauver tous les hommes, 47:27.000 --> 47:33.840 et il reviendra juger les vivants et les morts, et il sera précédé de la sainte croix que vous avez derrière vous. 47:34.840 --> 47:45.020 Et la troisième personne de la très sainte Trinité, c'est le Saint-Esprit qui est le Dieu d'amour, le fruit d'amour du Père et du Fils, qui sème réciproquement. 47:45.020 --> 47:52.020 Donc, le problème, est-ce que la charité sans la vérité est possible ? 47:52.780 --> 48:00.020 Je pense que notre action est démontrée dans l'Évangile, qui est le livre qu'a laissé notre Seigneur. 48:01.740 --> 48:10.960 Lorsque la maison est bâtie sur du sable, les flots peuvent passer et repasser, et la maison est emportée. 48:10.960 --> 48:22.640 Or, l'Europe sur laquelle est bâtie la vérité, c'est le Christ, Jésus-Christ, qui est Dieu, et qui est le Seigneur au ciel. 48:23.560 --> 48:23.740 Voilà. 48:24.860 --> 48:32.500 En tout cas, je vous remercie, c'était très impressionnant, et très courageux d'aller au Vatican, dans l'ombre du lion. 48:32.500 --> 48:47.720 Je n'ai pas entendu tout ce qui passe. Ce que j'ai pu comprendre, c'est que notre ami, là, a fait remarquer qu'il y a une limite, 48:47.940 --> 48:54.960 j'en suppose, à la collaboration possible entre les chrétiens et les musulmans, et ça paraît inévident. 48:54.960 --> 49:01.400 Mais, comme je l'ai expliqué, alors malheureusement, le micro-baladeur ne marche pas, 49:01.500 --> 49:07.300 donc je demande à ceux qui veulent poser la question de venir ici, et on est obligé de faire comme ça. 49:08.380 --> 49:17.820 Et, alors, si c'est possible, il y a le problème de la langue, je regrette que le Seigneur d'Unenguin soit parti, 49:17.820 --> 49:26.820 parce que là, c'est très compliqué, il est évident que le Seigneur n'a pas de mission pour promouvoir 49:26.820 --> 49:30.240 quelques religions, tout soit d'ailleurs, si ce n'est le christianisme, 49:30.840 --> 49:36.740 mais le but de cette présentation, je l'ai expliqué au début, c'était de vous apporter une information de première main 49:36.740 --> 49:43.920 sur un phénomène important qui se déroule aujourd'hui, au début du XXIe siècle, en islam. 49:43.920 --> 49:48.380 Maintenant, vous êtes assez grande pour penser par vous-même. 49:49.640 --> 49:50.320 Très bien. 49:51.360 --> 49:55.420 Oui, une question, rassurez-vous, très brève et très précise. 49:56.280 --> 50:03.880 Notre orateur a fait allusion au fait qu'en Iran, l'évolutionnisme relevait, pour ainsi dire, de la doctrine officielle. 50:04.360 --> 50:12.260 Je voudrais savoir si c'est spécifique à l'Iran, ou bien, si ça n'est pas spécifique, plus largement, à l'islam chiïsque. 50:12.260 --> 50:17.380 Et dans l'hypothèse où ça le serait, j'aimerais en connaître la raison. 50:18.320 --> 50:18.500 Voilà. 50:18.500 --> 50:27.500 Donc, c'est bien, c'est une étude marxiste qui n'a... 50:27.500 --> 50:36.860 Oui, mais est-ce que c'est marxiste éducation, développée en Iran, parce que c'est un pays shiite, et non un senate? 50:36.860 --> 50:37.860 Non, c'est marxiste. 50:37.860 --> 50:38.860 Non, c'est marxiste. 50:38.860 --> 50:39.860 Non, c'est marxiste. 50:39.860 --> 50:40.860 Non, c'est marxiste. 50:40.860 --> 50:41.860 Non, c'est marxiste. 50:41.860 --> 50:42.860 Non, c'est marxiste. 50:42.860 --> 50:43.860 Non, c'est marxiste. 50:43.860 --> 50:44.860 C'est marxiste. 50:44.860 --> 50:47.860 Le gouvernement est controlé par un marxiste deep state structure. 50:47.860 --> 50:49.860 Et ce qui est contrôlée. 50:49.860 --> 50:52.860 Il y a beaucoup de résistance avec Darwinisme. 50:52.860 --> 50:57.860 Par exemple, si vous n'avez pas de conférence ou une intellectuelle struggle contre Darwinisme, 50:57.860 --> 50:59.860 le state ne vous résiste. 50:59.860 --> 51:04.860 Parce que le marxisme est une structure deep state structure qui contrôle le state. 51:04.860 --> 51:07.860 Donc, le marxiste contrôle l'Iran. 51:07.860 --> 51:09.860 Oui, en réalité, c'est une apparition intéressant. 51:09.860 --> 51:14.860 Donc, la structure de pouvoir profonde en Iran n'est pas une structure shiite du tout. 51:14.860 --> 51:16.860 C'est une structure marxiste. 51:16.860 --> 51:23.860 Et donc, le darwinisme est utilisé comme idéologie d'État, comme dans tous les pays marxistes, et imposé à tout le monde. 51:23.860 --> 51:28.860 Parce que ça n'est pas en apparence, bien sûr, c'est un pays shiite, et on met toujours la religion en avant. 51:28.860 --> 51:32.860 Mais la structure de pouvoir en Iran est une structure marxiste. 51:32.860 --> 51:36.860 Mais en Europe, de l'Iran, dans les pays musulmans, quoi ? 51:36.860 --> 51:51.860 In other countries than Iran, without this deep power, is it the same ? 51:51.860 --> 51:52.860 Yes. 51:52.860 --> 52:04.860 Darwinism is being found in the schools in Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Algeria, in Syria, in Iraq, in all the countries, even in Turkey. 52:04.860 --> 52:06.860 Darwinism is still being found in the schools. 52:06.860 --> 52:17.860 But, with the works of Mr. Harun Yahya, according to most recent polls, we did thousands of conferences and millions of booklets were distributed free of charge on the street in Turkey. 52:17.860 --> 52:23.860 Although Darwinism is still being found in the schools, 95% of the Turkish people do not believe in Darwinism anymore. 52:23.860 --> 52:26.860 And this was done by Darwinist media, not by us. 52:26.860 --> 52:34.860 And so, what is interesting, is that the Darwinism is taught in schools in all countries, like the Maghreb, the Groove-Orient, etc. 52:34.860 --> 52:38.860 So, they are musulmans, so it is not appropriate to Iran. 52:38.860 --> 52:47.860 But, by the way, thanks to the activity of Darwinism, the population has access to today an information anti-darwinian. 52:47.860 --> 52:53.860 And we arrive at this point where, in Turkey, 90% of people do not believe in Darwinism anymore. 52:53.860 --> 53:06.860 Yes, so, is it human or divine? 53:06.860 --> 53:07.860 Yes. 53:07.860 --> 53:14.860 So, the question, Jesus will come back, so will he be human or divine? 53:14.860 --> 53:25.860 Well, according to hadiths, the sayings of the Prophet, signs given by our Prophet about the end times, they have all happened. 53:25.860 --> 53:30.860 That means, Jesus, peace be upon him, must have returned, must be alive. 53:30.860 --> 53:33.860 But we know he will be keep secret at the beginning. 53:33.860 --> 53:38.860 But the time is coming that all the entire world will see him, will embrace him. 53:38.860 --> 53:41.860 Jesus will be, he is a Prophet, will love and respect him very much. 53:41.860 --> 53:44.860 The entire, he will bring peace to the entire world. 53:44.860 --> 53:45.860 And these times are coming. 53:45.860 --> 53:50.860 According to Quran, he is a Prophet of Allah, so he is human. 53:50.860 --> 53:55.860 Yes, well, the question was not useful for the Muslims. 53:55.860 --> 53:56.860 He is not God. 53:56.860 --> 53:58.860 He is not God, so he is not God. 53:58.860 --> 53:59.860 Neither before nor after. 53:59.860 --> 54:03.860 But he is a messenger, he is a prophet of importance. 54:03.860 --> 54:09.860 Did Allah create the devil? 54:09.860 --> 54:12.860 Did Allah create the devil? 54:12.860 --> 54:16.860 Yes, Allah created Satan and Satan is under control of Allah. 54:16.860 --> 54:24.860 And the lower soul in humans are, according to Quran, Allah says, the lower soul, it's called Nehs in Arabic, is created by Allah. 54:24.860 --> 54:36.860 Which is, for example, in the lower soul, everybody has the features of selfishness, being egoistic, for example, being jealous, being a tyrant. 54:36.860 --> 54:49.860 But what we need to do is, for the test, we need to control ourselves, press, crush this lower soul, and have it a good faith, and follow, obey the rules of Allah, the revelations. 54:49.860 --> 54:51.860 So, follow the good morality. 54:51.860 --> 54:53.860 And then we will pass this test. 54:53.860 --> 54:54.860 This is part of the test. 54:54.860 --> 54:57.860 So, Satan is the program of the examination. 54:57.860 --> 54:59.860 Part of the examination. 54:59.860 --> 55:02.860 And then we will expose the problem. 55:02.860 --> 55:07.860 But, indeed, it's God who created the demon. 55:07.860 --> 55:09.860 But this is a very important point. 55:09.860 --> 55:13.860 It's God who created the evil side of the human being. 55:13.860 --> 55:16.860 And so, we are on earth. 55:16.860 --> 55:20.860 We have a good one who leads us to the evil, to the violence, etc. 55:20.860 --> 55:21.860 To the egoistic. 55:21.860 --> 55:22.860 And we have a good one. 55:22.860 --> 55:28.860 And God is there, observe our efforts towards the good. 55:28.860 --> 55:34.860 And, at the end, he will judge the people, the good or the bad, in terms of what they have done, 55:34.860 --> 55:37.860 in terms of the fight they have made against their own children. 55:37.860 --> 55:39.860 But, this is a fundamental point. 55:39.860 --> 55:44.860 So, we will have a lot of time to talk about it. 55:44.860 --> 55:47.860 But, we have talked about it. 55:47.860 --> 55:49.860 We have talked about it yesterday. 55:49.860 --> 55:55.860 Because I believe that the difference between the christianism and what I have heard of the Islam, 55:55.860 --> 55:58.860 is the fact that this bad side of the human being, 55:58.860 --> 56:02.860 which is the bad side of the human being, 56:02.860 --> 56:04.860 which is a notion of the ludic, 56:04.860 --> 56:06.860 is created by God. 56:06.860 --> 56:08.860 And that's the big difference. 56:08.860 --> 56:16.860 And that's why the first passage of Jesus is not a passage of redemption, 56:16.860 --> 56:19.860 because there is no need to be redemption. 56:19.860 --> 56:24.860 So, we have, when we have a very profound difference in the religious faith. 56:24.860 --> 56:31.860 Of course, we were not here to examine these questions theologians. 56:31.860 --> 56:36.860 So, I think that we will stop. 56:36.860 --> 56:37.860 Because it is 4 hours 20. 56:37.860 --> 56:39.860 Normally, the pause. 56:39.860 --> 56:40.860 And two other questions. 56:40.860 --> 56:41.860 One question. 56:41.860 --> 56:51.860 Who paid the diffusion ? 56:51.860 --> 56:53.860 Who paid the diffusion ? 56:53.860 --> 56:54.860 Who paid the diffusion ? 56:54.860 --> 56:55.860 Yeah. 56:55.860 --> 56:59.860 And we are several hundred, about 300 people. 56:59.860 --> 57:03.860 Friends of Mr. Harun Yahya, Mr. Adnan Oktar. 57:03.860 --> 57:05.860 Many of us have business. 57:05.860 --> 57:07.860 They have their own companies. 57:07.860 --> 57:09.860 And some of them have factories. 57:09.860 --> 57:10.860 So, we make money. 57:10.860 --> 57:13.860 And we spend in the way of God. 57:13.860 --> 57:15.860 Because Darwinism is very urgent. 57:15.860 --> 57:18.860 That is the reason why our unity is so important. 57:18.860 --> 57:19.860 We unite. 57:19.860 --> 57:21.860 Because we have the same goal. 57:21.860 --> 57:22.860 Common goal. 57:22.860 --> 57:23.860 What is that ? 57:23.860 --> 57:27.860 To eradicate intellectually these atheistic philosophies, 57:27.860 --> 57:28.860 which are the cause of the corruption. 57:28.860 --> 57:33.860 And this will bring the religious morality to the entire world. 57:33.860 --> 57:35.860 And so, we spend our money. 57:35.860 --> 57:37.860 And we pay for the efforts of creation. 57:37.860 --> 57:39.860 We don't accept any donations. 57:39.860 --> 57:44.860 So, the Harun Yahya does not receive any donations. 57:44.860 --> 57:48.860 There are between 300 and 700 people, 57:48.860 --> 57:50.860 who are companies, etc., 57:50.860 --> 57:52.860 who are businesses, 57:52.860 --> 57:57.860 and who, of course, give their money for the association. 57:57.860 --> 58:01.860 So, that is what the force of the association is. 58:01.860 --> 58:02.860 It is free. 58:02.860 --> 58:03.860 It is free. 58:03.860 --> 58:04.860 Let me... 58:04.860 --> 58:06.860 Mr. Adnan Oktar never makes, 58:06.860 --> 58:09.860 not even a single cent from his books. 58:09.860 --> 58:10.860 He never makes money. 58:10.860 --> 58:13.860 He spent his all money, actually, for his books, 58:13.860 --> 58:14.860 distributing his books. 58:14.860 --> 58:17.860 He never accepts any money from his books. 58:17.860 --> 58:19.860 Because according to the Quran, it's unlawful. 58:19.860 --> 58:22.860 For spreading the message, the religion, 58:22.860 --> 58:24.860 you cannot earn money from that. 58:36.860 --> 58:38.860 It's not the goal of the operation. 58:38.860 --> 58:39.860 And it's... 58:39.860 --> 58:41.860 And it's contrary, if you want, 58:41.860 --> 58:42.860 you'll recall the view of the Quran. 58:42.860 --> 58:44.860 Ecoutez, I know... 58:44.860 --> 58:45.860 We could talk a long time. 58:45.860 --> 58:47.860 There are a lot of points that we haven't aborded. 58:47.860 --> 58:48.860 I don't want to... 58:48.860 --> 58:50.860 I don't want to... 58:50.860 --> 58:51.860 Oh, it's not a question? 58:51.860 --> 58:52.860 It's just something to say 58:52.860 --> 58:55.860 about the Vatican, 58:55.860 --> 58:56.860 in Holland, 58:56.860 --> 58:58.860 it's been the same thing. 58:58.860 --> 58:59.860 It's a tremblement of the earth. 58:59.860 --> 59:00.860 It's one minute. 59:00.860 --> 59:04.860 One minute of 60 seconds. 59:06.860 --> 59:07.860 In 2005, 59:07.860 --> 59:08.860 in the Pays-Bas, 59:08.860 --> 59:11.860 it's happened what I would call a tremblement of the earth creationist. 59:11.860 --> 59:12.860 The minister, 59:12.860 --> 59:14.860 who is a woman, Maria van der Rufen, 59:14.860 --> 59:15.860 in 2005, 59:15.860 --> 59:17.860 who is the minister of the Culture, 59:17.860 --> 59:18.860 the minister of the Ensignments 59:18.860 --> 59:20.860 and the minister of the Science, 59:20.860 --> 59:22.860 said that we have to teach 59:22.860 --> 59:23.860 at the same level 59:23.860 --> 59:24.860 the creationism 59:24.860 --> 59:26.860 and the Darwinism, 59:26.860 --> 59:28.860 since we don't respond to all these questions. 59:28.860 --> 59:30.860 At the assembly, 59:30.860 --> 59:31.860 at the A. 59:31.860 --> 59:34.860 It was really a tollé. 59:34.860 --> 59:35.860 We had never seen it 59:35.860 --> 59:36.860 since the Second World War. 59:36.860 --> 59:38.860 The deputies were almost on the table. 59:38.860 --> 59:40.860 And it was supported, 59:40.860 --> 59:41.860 so Maria van der Rufen 59:41.860 --> 59:44.860 was supported by the professor Seyss Decker, 59:44.860 --> 59:47.860 who received the Prize Spinoza in 2003. 59:47.860 --> 59:48.860 The Prize Spinoza, 59:48.860 --> 59:52.860 it's the prize scientific 59:52.860 --> 59:53.860 the most important. 59:53.860 --> 59:55.860 And the professor Seyss Decker 59:55.860 --> 59:56.860 Seyss Decker a pris 59:56.860 --> 59:58.860 fête et cause pour Maria van der Rufen, 59:58.860 --> 59:59.860 who was the minister of the Science, 59:59.860 --> 01:00:01.860 and his professor enseignait 01:00:01.860 --> 01:00:03.860 le creationism 01:00:03.860 --> 01:00:05.860 dans les Églises évangélistes, 01:00:05.860 --> 01:00:06.860 etc. 01:00:06.860 --> 01:00:07.860 So it's very important 01:00:07.860 --> 01:00:08.860 to le dire, 01:00:08.860 --> 01:00:09.860 I think. 01:00:09.860 --> 01:00:10.860 So, 01:00:10.860 --> 01:00:11.860 écoutez, 01:00:11.860 --> 01:00:13.860 it's not a profession intéressante, 01:00:13.860 --> 01:00:14.860 there are others 01:00:14.860 --> 01:00:15.860 of the same genre. 01:00:15.860 --> 01:00:16.860 It means that the combat continues 01:00:16.860 --> 01:00:17.860 and it's no longer 01:00:17.860 --> 01:00:18.860 to be lost. 01:00:18.860 --> 01:00:19.860 And I think that 01:00:19.860 --> 01:00:20.860 there is a chance 01:00:20.860 --> 01:00:21.860 that it will be gained 01:00:21.860 --> 01:00:22.860 because from the moment 01:00:22.860 --> 01:00:23.860 where the adversary 01:00:23.860 --> 01:00:24.860 doesn't have the possibility 01:00:24.860 --> 01:00:25.860 to respond to the argument, 01:00:25.860 --> 01:00:27.860 it's that he knows 01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:28.860 what he has lost. 01:00:28.860 --> 01:00:29.860 And when the adversary 01:00:29.860 --> 01:00:30.860 knows what he has lost, 01:00:30.860 --> 01:00:31.860 he is gained. 01:00:31.860 --> 01:00:32.860 But for the moment, 01:00:32.860 --> 01:00:34.860 he has still the microphone, 01:00:34.860 --> 01:00:35.860 he has still the microphone, 01:00:35.860 --> 01:00:36.860 he has still the television, 01:00:36.860 --> 01:00:37.860 but it doesn't count 01:00:37.860 --> 01:00:39.860 because it's the truth 01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:40.860 that he counts. 01:00:40.860 --> 01:00:41.860 So, 01:00:41.860 --> 01:00:43.860 I thank the doctor 01:00:43.860 --> 01:00:44.860 Dr. Babouna 01:00:44.860 --> 01:00:46.860 for coming to Turkey 01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:47.860 for us to present 01:00:47.860 --> 01:00:48.860 a document 01:00:48.860 --> 01:00:49.860 that is, 01:00:49.860 --> 01:00:50.860 that is, 01:00:50.860 --> 01:00:51.860 that is, 01:00:51.860 --> 01:00:52.860 I think, 01:00:52.860 --> 01:00:53.860 that on the plan 01:00:53.860 --> 01:00:54.860 of the form, 01:00:54.860 --> 01:00:55.860 there is a knowledge 01:00:55.860 --> 01:00:56.860 that is, 01:00:56.860 --> 01:00:57.860 that is, 01:00:57.860 --> 01:00:58.860 that is, 01:00:58.860 --> 01:00:59.860 that is, 01:00:59.860 --> 01:01:00.860 that is, 01:01:00.860 --> 01:01:01.860 that is, 01:01:01.860 --> 01:01:02.860 that is, 01:01:02.860 --> 01:01:03.860 that is, 01:01:03.860 --> 01:01:04.860 that is, 01:01:04.860 --> 01:01:05.860 that is, 01:01:05.860 --> 01:01:06.860 that is, 01:01:06.860 --> 01:01:07.860 that is, 01:01:07.860 --> 01:01:08.860 that is, 01:01:08.860 --> 01:01:09.860 that is, 01:01:09.860 --> 01:01:10.860 the vision 01:01:10.860 --> 01:01:11.860 of the world of Islam. 01:01:11.860 --> 01:01:12.860 I know, 01:01:12.860 --> 01:01:13.860 of course, 01:01:13.860 --> 01:01:14.860 that here, 01:01:14.860 --> 01:01:15.860 this vision of the world 01:01:15.860 --> 01:01:16.860 can shock 01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:18.860 or not be shared 01:01:18.860 --> 01:01:19.860 because there are 01:01:19.860 --> 01:01:21.860 really 01:01:21.860 --> 01:01:22.860 fundamental differences 01:01:22.860 --> 01:01:23.860 between the views 01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:24.860 because if there were not, 01:01:24.860 --> 01:01:26.860 it would be a long time. 01:01:26.860 --> 01:01:27.860 And, 01:01:27.860 --> 01:01:28.860 we will not 01:01:28.860 --> 01:01:29.860 in two hours 01:01:29.860 --> 01:01:30.860 of conference 01:01:30.860 --> 01:01:31.860 to regulate 01:01:31.860 --> 01:01:32.860 a difference 01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:33.860 since the centuries. 01:01:33.860 --> 01:01:34.860 But, 01:01:34.860 --> 01:01:35.860 the important thing 01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:36.860 was to show 01:01:36.860 --> 01:01:37.860 that 01:01:37.860 --> 01:01:38.860 that, 01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:39.860 beyond these barriers 01:01:39.860 --> 01:01:41.860 between the people, 01:01:41.860 --> 01:01:42.860 there is 01:01:42.860 --> 01:01:43.860 what we call 01:01:43.860 --> 01:01:44.860 in the evangelism 01:01:44.860 --> 01:01:45.860 of goodwill. 01:01:45.860 --> 01:01:46.860 And, 01:01:46.860 --> 01:01:47.860 it is said 01:01:47.860 --> 01:01:49.860 to be a goodwill. 01:01:49.860 --> 01:01:50.860 And, 01:01:50.860 --> 01:01:51.860 it is said to be a goodwill. 01:01:51.860 --> 01:01:52.860 It is said to be a goodwill. 01:01:52.860 --> 01:01:54.860 It is said to be a goodwill. 01:01:54.860 --> 01:01:55.860 So, 01:01:55.860 --> 01:01:56.860 what I would like to say, 01:01:56.860 --> 01:01:57.860 is the possibility, 01:01:57.860 --> 01:01:59.860 in the camps 01:01:59.860 --> 01:02:00.860 also different 01:02:00.860 --> 01:02:01.860 than the Christian 01:02:01.860 --> 01:02:02.860 if you want to say 01:02:02.860 --> 01:02:03.860 the Muslim 01:02:03.860 --> 01:02:04.860 to constate 01:02:04.860 --> 01:02:05.860 that it is possible 01:02:05.860 --> 01:02:06.860 to speak 01:02:06.860 --> 01:02:07.860 peaceably, 01:02:07.860 --> 01:02:08.860 to respond 01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:09.860 to questions 01:02:09.860 --> 01:02:10.860 and, 01:02:10.860 --> 01:02:11.860 on a large number 01:02:11.860 --> 01:02:12.860 of points, 01:02:12.860 --> 01:02:13.860 to constate 01:02:13.860 --> 01:02:14.860 that convergence 01:02:14.860 --> 01:02:15.860 significative 01:02:15.860 --> 01:02:16.860 which, 01:02:16.860 --> 01:02:17.860 perhaps, 01:02:17.860 --> 01:02:18.860 open the way 01:02:18.860 --> 01:02:19.860 to the collaboration 01:02:19.860 --> 01:02:20.860 effective. 01:02:20.860 --> 01:02:21.860 I think 01:02:21.860 --> 01:02:22.860 that the 01:02:22.860 --> 01:02:23.860 operation 01:02:23.860 --> 01:02:24.860 of the professors 01:02:24.860 --> 01:02:25.860 of the university 01:02:25.860 --> 01:02:26.860 can be carried out 01:02:26.860 --> 01:02:27.860 by the Christians 01:02:27.860 --> 01:02:28.860 motivated 01:02:28.860 --> 01:02:29.860 and motivated 01:02:29.860 --> 01:02:30.860 by the scientists 01:02:30.860 --> 01:02:31.860 in the present. 01:02:31.860 --> 01:02:33.860 So, 01:02:33.860 --> 01:02:34.860 thank you. 01:02:34.860 --> 01:02:35.860 So, 01:02:35.860 --> 01:02:36.860 thank you. 01:02:36.860 --> 01:02:40.860 Thank you very much. 01:02:40.860 --> 01:02:41.860 Thank you. 01:02:41.860 --> 01:02:44.860 Thank you very much. 01:02:44.860 --> 01:02:45.860 Thank you very much. 01:02:45.860 --> 01:02:46.860 I would like to thank you 01:02:46.860 --> 01:02:48.860 everyone for the time. 01:02:48.860 --> 01:02:50.860 We have a pause 01:02:50.860 --> 01:02:52.860 that we will try to reduce 01:02:52.860 --> 01:02:53.860 in a minute. 01:02:53.860 --> 01:02:54.860 Thank you very much. 01:02:55.860 --> 01:02:56.860 Thank you. 01:02:56.860 --> 01:03:13.160 Je remercie les intervenants de leur présentation, qui est toujours impressionnante. 01:03:13.160 --> 01:03:21.280 Alors, effectivement, être anti-évolutionniste, c'est bien et c'est la vérité sur la Terre, 01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:27.740 mais pour aller au ciel, le problème, vous avez parlé beaucoup de Dieu et de Jésus, 01:03:28.500 --> 01:03:33.320 mais Dieu, bon, que je sache, c'est la très sainte Trinité. 01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:42.840 Dieu est esprit et notre Seigneur s'est incarné, le Verbe de Dieu, la deuxième personne de la très sainte Trinité. 01:03:43.020 --> 01:03:48.480 Jésus, quand j'ai entendu le premier interlocuteur dire que Jésus n'était pas mort, 01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:55.200 Jésus est mort sur la croix pour sauver tous les hommes et il reviendra juger les vivants et les morts 01:03:55.200 --> 01:03:59.240 et il sera précédé de la sainte croix que vous avez derrière vous. 01:04:00.240 --> 01:04:06.360 Et la troisième personne de la très sainte Trinité, c'est le Saint-Esprit qui est le Dieu d'amour, 01:04:06.980 --> 01:04:10.380 le fruit d'amour du Père et du Fils, qui s'aime réciproquement. 01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:17.380 Donc, le problème, est-ce que la charité sans la vérité est possible ? 01:04:17.380 --> 01:04:25.980 Je pense que notre action est démontrée dans l'Évangile, qui est le livre qu'a laissé notre Seigneur. 01:04:27.100 --> 01:04:29.600 Lorsque la maison est bâtie sur du sable, 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:36.320 eh bien, les flots peuvent passer et repasser et la maison est emportée. 01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:48.000 Or, le roc sur lequel est bâtie la vérité, c'est le Christ, Jésus-Christ, qui est Dieu et qui est le Seigneur au ciel. 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:49.100 Voilà. 01:04:49.100 --> 01:04:51.320 En tout cas, je vous remercie. 01:04:51.460 --> 01:04:57.940 C'était très impressionnant, en tout cas, et très courageux d'aller au Vatican, dans l'ombre du Lyon. 01:04:57.940 --> 01:05:06.360 Je n'ai pas entendu tout ce qu'il fait. 01:05:06.540 --> 01:05:18.140 Ce qu'il faut comprendre, c'est que notre ami, là, on fait remarquer qu'il y a une limite à la collaboration possible entre les chrétiens et les musulmans. 01:05:18.140 --> 01:05:20.380 Et ça paraît une évidence. 01:05:21.500 --> 01:05:26.760 Mais, comme je l'ai expliqué, alors malheureusement, le micro-baladeur ne marche pas. 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:29.540 Donc, je demande à ceux qui veulent poser la question de venir ici. 01:05:30.380 --> 01:05:32.640 Et on est obligé de faire comme ça. 01:05:33.740 --> 01:05:38.720 Et, alors, si c'est possible, il y a le problème de la langue. 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.200 Je regrette que l'administration d'Ouenengin ne soit partie. 01:05:43.980 --> 01:05:47.200 Mais on va... Parce que là, la langue, c'est très compliqué. 01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:55.600 Bon, il est évident que le CEP n'a pas de mission pour promouvoir quelques religions qu'il soit, d'ailleurs, si ce n'est le christianisme. 01:05:56.180 --> 01:06:04.760 Mais le but de cette présentation, je l'ai expliqué au début, c'était de vous apporter une information de première main sur un phénomène important 01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.280 qui se déroule aujourd'hui, au début du XXIe siècle, en islam. 01:06:09.600 --> 01:06:13.740 Maintenant, vous êtes assez grande pour penser par vous-même. 01:06:15.040 --> 01:06:15.680 Très bien. 01:06:15.680 --> 01:06:20.780 Oui, une question, rassurez-vous, très brève et très précise. 01:06:21.720 --> 01:06:24.380 Notre orateur a fait allusion au fait qu'en Iran, 01:06:24.980 --> 01:06:29.240 en Iran, l'évolutionnisme relevait, pour ainsi dire, de la doctrine officielle. 01:06:29.720 --> 01:06:32.500 Je voudrais savoir si c'est spécifique à l'Iran, 01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:37.080 ou bien, si ça n'est pas spécifique, plus largement, à l'islam chiiste. 01:06:37.080 --> 01:06:42.740 Et dans l'hypothèse où ça le serait, j'aimerais en connaître la raison. 01:06:42.740 --> 01:06:43.880 Voilà. 01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:53.180 Donc c'est bien, c'est une étude marxiste qui n'a... 01:06:53.180 --> 01:06:58.280 Mais est-ce marxiste éducation développée en Iran, 01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:02.380 parce que c'est un pays qui n'est pas un pays qui n'est pas un pays. 01:07:02.380 --> 01:07:03.080 Non, je ne sais pas. 01:07:03.080 --> 01:07:03.380 Non, je ne sais pas. 01:07:03.380 --> 01:07:06.580 Oui, Shia, je crois, est pas prevé dans l'Iran. 01:07:07.380 --> 01:07:08.480 Mais l'Iran est prévélien dans l'Iran, 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:09.480 dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, 01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:10.480 dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran. 01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:13.580 Le gouvernement est contrôlé par une structure marxiste deep-state structure, 01:07:13.580 --> 01:07:18.180 et ce qui contrôle, il y a beaucoup de résistance avec le darwinisme. 01:07:18.180 --> 01:07:21.680 Par exemple, si vous ne pouvez pas faire une conférence 01:07:21.680 --> 01:07:23.980 ou une lutte intellectuelle contre le darwinisme, 01:07:23.980 --> 01:07:25.680 le state va résister. 01:07:25.680 --> 01:07:28.980 Parce que le marxisme est une structure deep-state structure 01:07:28.980 --> 01:07:30.480 qui contrôle le state. 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.680 Donc le marxiste mindset contrôle l'Iran. 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:42.480 du tout, c'est une structure marxiste. 01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:45.980 Et donc le darwinisme est utilisé comme idéologie d'État, 01:07:45.980 --> 01:07:47.980 comme dans tous les pays marxistes, 01:07:47.980 --> 01:07:49.980 et imposé à tout le monde. 01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:51.980 Parce que ça n'est pas cette grande apparence, bien sûr, 01:07:51.980 --> 01:07:54.980 c'est un pays gîte, et on met toujours la religion en avant, 01:07:54.980 --> 01:07:58.980 mais la structure de pouvoir en Iran est une structure marxiste. 01:07:58.980 --> 01:08:02.980 En dehors de l'Iran, dans les pays musulmans, quoi ? 01:08:02.980 --> 01:08:07.980 In other countries than Iran, 01:08:07.980 --> 01:08:18.980 de l'Iran, dans l'Iran, dans l'Iran, 01:08:18.980 --> 01:08:20.480 c'est la même chose ? 01:08:20.480 --> 01:08:21.480 Oui. 01:08:21.480 --> 01:08:22.480 Déharmonisme est en tant que l'Iran, 01:08:22.480 --> 01:08:22.980 en Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, 01:08:22.980 --> 01:08:23.980 Algeria, 01:08:23.980 --> 01:08:26.480 en allant de la Syrie, 01:08:26.480 --> 01:08:27.480 en Irak, 01:08:27.480 --> 01:08:28.980 en tous les pays, 01:08:28.980 --> 01:08:30.480 même en Turquie. 01:08:30.480 --> 01:08:32.480 Déharmonisme est toujours en tant que l'Iran, 01:08:32.480 --> 01:08:35.480 mais avec les works de Mr. Harun Yahya, 01:08:35.480 --> 01:08:37.480 en plus de la plus en plus de la plus de la plus de la plus de la plus, 01:08:37.480 --> 01:08:39.180 thousands of conferences 01:08:39.180 --> 01:08:41.080 and millions of booklets were distributed 01:08:41.080 --> 01:08:42.580 free of charge on the street in Turkey. 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:45.220 Although Darwinism is still being 01:08:45.220 --> 01:08:47.140 thought in the schools, 95% 01:08:47.140 --> 01:08:49.140 of the Turkish people do not believe in Darwinism 01:08:49.140 --> 01:08:50.560 anymore. And this was done by 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:52.320 Darwinism media, not by us. 01:09:07.480 --> 01:09:09.480 The population has 01:09:09.480 --> 01:09:11.240 access to today an information 01:09:11.240 --> 01:09:13.380 anti-darwinian and 01:09:13.380 --> 01:09:15.060 we arrive at this point where 01:09:15.060 --> 01:09:17.400 in Turkey, 90% of the people 01:09:17.400 --> 01:09:18.740 do not believe in Darwinism. 01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:33.800 So the question, 01:09:34.060 --> 01:09:34.740 Jésus 01:09:34.740 --> 01:09:37.440 revient, va revenir, 01:09:38.240 --> 01:09:39.680 donc sera-t-il humain ou divin? 01:09:42.360 --> 01:09:43.980 Well, according 01:09:43.980 --> 01:09:45.740 to hadiths, the sayings 01:09:45.740 --> 01:09:47.080 of the prophet, signs given 01:09:47.080 --> 01:09:49.880 by our prophet about the end times, 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:50.840 they have all happened. 01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:54.260 That means, Jesus, peace be upon him, 01:09:54.340 --> 01:09:55.940 must have returned, must be alive. 01:09:56.660 --> 01:09:57.760 But we know he will be 01:09:57.760 --> 01:09:59.140 keep secret at the beginning. 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.360 But the time is coming that 01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:03.220 all the entire world will see him, 01:10:03.220 --> 01:10:04.300 will embrace him. 01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:06.260 Jesus will be, he's a prophet, 01:10:06.460 --> 01:10:07.980 will love and respect him very much, 01:10:08.060 --> 01:10:09.500 the entire, he will bring peace 01:10:09.500 --> 01:10:10.400 to the entire world. 01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:11.580 And these times are coming. 01:10:12.080 --> 01:10:12.880 According to Quran, 01:10:13.320 --> 01:10:14.460 he's a prophet of Allah, 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:15.220 so he's human. 01:10:15.220 --> 01:10:40.320 Yes, Allah created the Satan, 01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:42.240 and Satan is under control of Allah. 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:43.840 And the lower soul, 01:10:44.340 --> 01:10:45.020 in humans are, 01:10:45.160 --> 01:10:45.740 according to Quran, 01:10:45.860 --> 01:10:46.300 Allah says, 01:10:46.400 --> 01:10:47.380 the lower soul, 01:10:47.660 --> 01:10:48.000 it's called 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:48.900 in Arabic, 01:10:49.300 --> 01:10:50.480 is created by Allah. 01:10:51.040 --> 01:10:51.820 Which is, for example, 01:10:51.980 --> 01:10:52.240 everybody, 01:10:52.480 --> 01:10:53.740 there's in lower soul, 01:10:53.860 --> 01:10:55.260 everybody has the features 01:10:55.260 --> 01:10:56.560 of selfishness, 01:10:57.140 --> 01:10:58.040 being egoistic, 01:10:58.220 --> 01:10:58.740 for example, 01:10:58.980 --> 01:10:59.740 being jealous, 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:02.000 being a tyrant. 01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.560 but what we need to do 01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:05.420 is, for the test, 01:11:05.660 --> 01:11:07.220 we need to control ourselves, 01:11:07.780 --> 01:11:08.120 press, 01:11:08.400 --> 01:11:09.700 crush this lower soul, 01:11:10.180 --> 01:11:11.260 and have it a good faith, 01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:12.460 and follow, 01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:14.180 obey the rules of Allah, 01:11:14.360 --> 01:11:15.120 the revelations. 01:11:15.700 --> 01:11:15.920 So, 01:11:16.320 --> 01:11:17.840 we follow the good morality, 01:11:18.380 --> 01:11:19.880 and then we will pass this test. 01:11:19.980 --> 01:11:20.980 This is part of the test. 01:11:20.980 --> 01:11:22.480 So, Satan is the program 01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:23.340 of the extermination. 01:11:23.340 --> 01:11:23.660 So, 01:11:23.660 --> 01:11:25.320 it's part of the example. 01:11:25.320 --> 01:11:25.520 So, 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:26.260 we're going to expose 01:11:26.260 --> 01:11:26.820 the problem. 01:11:27.620 --> 01:11:28.060 But, 01:11:28.260 --> 01:11:30.640 it's God who created 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:32.800 the demon, 01:11:33.280 --> 01:11:35.060 but it's a very important point. 01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:37.040 It's God who created 01:11:37.040 --> 01:11:38.360 the bad thing in the human being. 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:39.960 And so, 01:11:40.040 --> 01:11:42.660 we are on earth, 01:11:42.700 --> 01:11:43.580 we have a good thing 01:11:43.580 --> 01:11:44.200 that we push 01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:44.580 to the evil, 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:45.240 to the violence, 01:11:45.420 --> 01:11:46.920 to the egoism, 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:48.140 but we have a good thing. 01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:49.000 And, 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.240 God is there, 01:11:51.420 --> 01:11:52.680 observe our efforts 01:11:52.680 --> 01:11:53.880 for the good. 01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:54.880 And, 01:11:55.080 --> 01:11:56.020 at the end, 01:11:56.100 --> 01:11:56.880 he will be judged 01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.080 the people of the good 01:11:58.080 --> 01:11:58.520 or the bad 01:11:58.520 --> 01:11:59.960 in terms of what they will have done, 01:12:00.020 --> 01:12:00.960 in terms of the fight 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:01.620 they will have given 01:12:01.620 --> 01:12:03.280 against their bad things. 01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:03.780 But, 01:12:03.780 --> 01:12:04.680 it's a point 01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:05.600 fundamental. 01:12:06.120 --> 01:12:06.540 So, 01:12:06.540 --> 01:12:08.720 it's not, 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:09.180 it's not, 01:12:09.480 --> 01:12:09.780 it's not, 01:12:09.780 --> 01:12:10.400 it's not a lot of time 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:10.980 to talk about it, 01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:12.880 but we have, 01:12:13.020 --> 01:12:14.140 we have talked about it 01:12:14.140 --> 01:12:14.340 here, 01:12:14.420 --> 01:12:15.940 because I think 01:12:15.940 --> 01:12:17.040 that it's the difference 01:12:17.040 --> 01:12:18.820 between the Christian 01:12:18.820 --> 01:12:20.280 and what I've heard 01:12:20.280 --> 01:12:20.880 of the Islam, 01:12:21.280 --> 01:12:22.540 it's the fact that 01:12:22.540 --> 01:12:23.960 this bad thing 01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:24.460 in the man, 01:12:24.820 --> 01:12:27.760 which is the bad thing, 01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:28.660 which is a notion 01:12:28.660 --> 01:12:29.160 of the ludic, 01:12:29.200 --> 01:12:29.520 by the way, 01:12:30.160 --> 01:12:31.280 is created by God. 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:33.380 And that's the big difference. 01:12:33.380 --> 01:12:36.020 and it's for that 01:12:36.020 --> 01:12:40.100 that the first passage 01:12:40.100 --> 01:12:40.560 of Jesus 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:41.900 is not a passage 01:12:41.900 --> 01:12:42.460 of redemption, 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:43.620 because there is no need 01:12:43.620 --> 01:12:44.100 of redemption. 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:45.960 So, 01:12:46.040 --> 01:12:46.440 we have, 01:12:46.440 --> 01:12:47.020 quand même, 01:12:47.080 --> 01:12:47.760 des différences 01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:49.040 très très profondes 01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:49.940 dans les croyances 01:12:49.940 --> 01:12:50.460 religieuses, 01:12:50.580 --> 01:12:50.940 évidemment, 01:12:51.160 --> 01:12:52.800 on n'était pas ici 01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:56.620 pour examiner 01:12:56.620 --> 01:12:57.720 ces questions théologiques, 01:12:57.840 --> 01:12:58.360 donc je, 01:12:58.760 --> 01:12:59.400 on va, 01:13:00.080 --> 01:13:00.700 non, 01:13:00.740 --> 01:13:01.400 je crois qu'on va, 01:13:01.540 --> 01:13:02.360 on va arrêter, 01:13:02.540 --> 01:13:03.680 parce que il est 4h20, 01:13:03.820 --> 01:13:04.260 normalement, 01:13:04.320 --> 01:13:04.780 la pause, 01:13:05.160 --> 01:13:06.280 ou bien l'argent, 01:13:06.620 --> 01:13:07.240 ou la publicité. 01:13:07.260 --> 01:13:07.420 Ah oui, 01:13:07.480 --> 01:13:07.880 on a quand même 01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:08.900 effectivement une question, 01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:10.660 qui, 01:13:10.900 --> 01:13:11.520 who paid 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:12.520 the diffusion 01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:13.940 of the pollution 01:13:13.940 --> 01:13:14.480 of that? 01:13:17.500 --> 01:13:18.300 Who paid 01:13:18.300 --> 01:13:18.820 the diffusion 01:13:18.820 --> 01:13:19.300 of that? 01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:21.280 And, 01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:22.400 we are 01:13:22.400 --> 01:13:23.740 several hundred, 01:13:23.940 --> 01:13:25.100 about 300 people, 01:13:25.360 --> 01:13:27.440 friends of Mr. Harun Yahya, 01:13:27.540 --> 01:13:28.380 Mr. Adnan Oktar. 01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:30.300 Many of us 01:13:30.300 --> 01:13:30.820 are from 01:13:30.820 --> 01:13:31.640 head business. 01:13:32.060 --> 01:13:33.120 They have their own companies, 01:13:33.620 --> 01:13:34.220 and some of them 01:13:34.220 --> 01:13:34.780 have factories. 01:13:35.340 --> 01:13:35.560 So, 01:13:35.620 --> 01:13:36.200 we make money, 01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:37.800 and we spend 01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:38.940 in the way of God, 01:13:39.200 --> 01:13:39.640 because 01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:41.260 Darwinism is very urgent. 01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:42.400 that is the reason 01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:43.240 why our unity 01:13:43.240 --> 01:13:44.120 is so important. 01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:45.440 We unite, 01:13:45.860 --> 01:13:46.960 because we have 01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:47.820 the same goal, 01:13:48.020 --> 01:13:48.520 common goal, 01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:49.080 what is that? 01:13:49.480 --> 01:13:51.320 To eradicate intellectually 01:13:51.320 --> 01:13:53.320 these atheistic philosophies, 01:13:53.400 --> 01:13:54.080 which are the cause 01:13:54.080 --> 01:13:54.680 of the corruption, 01:13:55.240 --> 01:13:55.840 and will bring, 01:13:56.180 --> 01:13:56.720 this will bring 01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:57.620 the religious morality 01:13:57.620 --> 01:13:58.840 to the entire world. 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:00.060 And so, 01:14:00.360 --> 01:14:01.640 we spend our money, 01:14:01.900 --> 01:14:02.380 and we pay 01:14:02.380 --> 01:14:03.320 for the efforts of creation. 01:14:03.440 --> 01:14:04.120 We don't accept 01:14:04.120 --> 01:14:04.700 any donations. 01:14:05.700 --> 01:14:06.300 Mais donc, 01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:07.200 il n'y a pas, 01:14:07.200 --> 01:14:08.520 le Harun Yahya 01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:10.140 ne reçoit pas de dons, 01:14:10.140 --> 01:14:10.800 il y a, 01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:12.040 entre 300 01:14:12.040 --> 01:14:13.080 et 700 personnes 01:14:13.080 --> 01:14:14.140 qui sont 01:14:14.140 --> 01:14:14.840 des entreprises, 01:14:15.080 --> 01:14:16.020 etc., 01:14:16.020 --> 01:14:17.340 comme les personnes 01:14:17.340 --> 01:14:18.200 qui sont destinées, 01:14:18.500 --> 01:14:18.900 et qui, 01:14:19.200 --> 01:14:19.600 de même, 01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:20.920 donnent de leurs revenus 01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:23.040 pour l'association. 01:14:23.500 --> 01:14:23.620 Donc, 01:14:23.740 --> 01:14:24.840 c'est ce qui fait, 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:25.040 d'ailleurs, 01:14:25.080 --> 01:14:25.480 la force 01:14:25.480 --> 01:14:26.800 de l'association, 01:14:26.900 --> 01:14:27.480 c'est qu'elle est libre. 01:14:27.820 --> 01:14:28.060 Libre. 01:14:28.060 --> 01:14:28.340 dépend. 01:14:29.340 --> 01:14:29.780 Can I... 01:14:29.780 --> 01:14:30.920 Mr. Admin Oktar 01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:31.900 never makes, 01:14:32.420 --> 01:14:34.180 not even single cent 01:14:34.180 --> 01:14:35.160 from his books. 01:14:35.820 --> 01:14:36.660 He never makes money. 01:14:37.060 --> 01:14:38.140 He spends his all money, 01:14:38.200 --> 01:14:38.440 actually, 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:39.120 for his books, 01:14:39.340 --> 01:14:40.340 distributing his books. 01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:41.760 He never accepts 01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:43.060 any money from his books 01:14:43.060 --> 01:14:43.980 because, 01:14:44.140 --> 01:14:44.760 according to the Quran, 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:45.620 it's unlawful. 01:14:46.140 --> 01:14:47.500 For spreading the message, 01:14:47.740 --> 01:14:48.180 the religion, 01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:49.600 you cannot earn money 01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:50.080 from that. 01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:51.700 D'après le Quran, 01:14:51.820 --> 01:14:52.280 on ne peut pas, 01:14:52.340 --> 01:14:52.840 de toute façon, 01:14:52.940 --> 01:14:53.620 gagner de l'argent 01:14:53.620 --> 01:14:55.120 en diffusant la bonne parole. 01:14:55.460 --> 01:14:55.480 Donc, 01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:56.460 M. Oktar, 01:14:57.020 --> 01:14:59.260 Admin Oktar, 01:14:59.500 --> 01:15:00.800 ne prend aucune... 01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:01.120 Au cas, 01:15:01.180 --> 01:15:01.520 d'auteur, 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:01.920 bien entendu, 01:15:02.020 --> 01:15:02.480 sur ce livre, 01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:04.040 c'est pas le but de l'opération. 01:15:04.660 --> 01:15:05.260 Et c'est... 01:15:05.260 --> 01:15:05.460 Alors, 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:05.680 ça, 01:15:05.780 --> 01:15:06.660 c'est contraire, 01:15:06.740 --> 01:15:07.120 si vous voulez, 01:15:07.200 --> 01:15:08.000 au point du but du Quran. 01:15:08.540 --> 01:15:08.840 Écoutez, 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:10.060 je suis... 01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:11.620 On pourrait parler longtemps, 01:15:11.740 --> 01:15:12.600 il y aurait beaucoup de points 01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:13.460 qu'on n'a pas abordés. 01:15:14.360 --> 01:15:16.000 Je ne veux pas passer... 01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:16.900 Ah, 01:15:16.900 --> 01:15:17.560 c'est pas une question ? 01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:18.220 C'est juste quelque chose 01:15:18.220 --> 01:15:18.960 à dire qui est important 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:20.000 par rapport à... 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:20.860 C'est passé au Vatican, 01:15:21.940 --> 01:15:22.460 en Hollande, 01:15:22.580 --> 01:15:23.920 c'est passé la même chose, 01:15:24.100 --> 01:15:25.160 c'est un tremblement de terre. 01:15:25.340 --> 01:15:26.220 Ça saute une minute. 01:15:26.620 --> 01:15:26.840 Oui, 01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:28.820 une minute de 30... 01:15:28.820 --> 01:15:29.160 de 5, 01:15:29.220 --> 01:15:29.780 60 secondes. 01:15:31.940 --> 01:15:32.940 En 2005, 01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:33.460 au Pays-Bas, 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:33.920 il s'est passé 01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:34.520 ce que j'appellerais 01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:35.760 un tremblement de terre 01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:37.080 créationniste. 01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:38.680 Le ministre, 01:15:38.780 --> 01:15:39.280 qui est une femme, 01:15:39.360 --> 01:15:40.280 Maria van der Rufen, 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:41.500 en 2005, 01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:41.920 donc, 01:15:42.040 --> 01:15:43.020 ministre de la Culture, 01:15:43.200 --> 01:15:44.180 ministre de l'Enseignement 01:15:44.180 --> 01:15:45.680 et ministre de la Science, 01:15:46.140 --> 01:15:46.440 dit, 01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:47.840 nous devons enseigner 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:49.120 au même niveau 01:15:49.120 --> 01:15:50.560 le créationnisme 01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:52.120 et le darwinisme, 01:15:52.240 --> 01:15:52.940 puisque le darwinisme 01:15:52.940 --> 01:15:53.560 ne répond pas 01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:54.400 à toutes ces questions. 01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:55.500 À l'Assemblée, 01:15:55.580 --> 01:15:55.840 donc, 01:15:56.060 --> 01:15:57.140 à Daé, 01:15:57.580 --> 01:15:58.680 ça a été véritablement 01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:00.040 un tollé. 01:16:00.380 --> 01:16:01.100 On n'avait jamais vu ça 01:16:01.100 --> 01:16:02.160 depuis la Seconde Guerre mondiale. 01:16:02.160 --> 01:16:03.040 les députés montaient 01:16:03.040 --> 01:16:03.960 presque sur les tables 01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.260 et elle a été soutenue, 01:16:06.340 --> 01:16:07.220 donc Maria van der Rufen 01:16:07.220 --> 01:16:07.860 a été soutenue 01:16:07.860 --> 01:16:09.300 par le professeur 01:16:09.300 --> 01:16:10.100 Seyss Decker 01:16:10.100 --> 01:16:11.600 qui a reçu 01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:12.600 le prix Spinoza 01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:13.520 en 2003. 01:16:14.060 --> 01:16:14.780 Le prix Spinoza, 01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.880 c'est le prix scientifique 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:19.580 le plus important. 01:16:20.340 --> 01:16:20.940 Et le professeur 01:16:20.940 --> 01:16:21.500 Seyss Decker 01:16:21.500 --> 01:16:21.920 a pris 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:22.860 Fête et Cause 01:16:22.860 --> 01:16:24.140 pour Maria van der Rufen, 01:16:24.280 --> 01:16:24.540 donc qui était 01:16:24.540 --> 01:16:25.320 ministre de la Science, 01:16:26.040 --> 01:16:26.860 et ce professeur 01:16:26.860 --> 01:16:27.480 enseignait 01:16:27.480 --> 01:16:29.380 le créationnisme 01:16:29.380 --> 01:16:30.600 dans les églises 01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:31.460 évangélistes, etc. 01:16:32.280 --> 01:16:33.180 Donc c'est très important 01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:33.940 de le dire, je pense. 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:36.400 Donc, écoutez, 01:16:37.400 --> 01:16:38.500 il n'a pas 01:16:38.500 --> 01:16:39.160 une question intéressante, 01:16:39.260 --> 01:16:39.940 il en aurait d'autres 01:16:39.940 --> 01:16:40.600 du même genre. 01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:41.460 Ça veut dire 01:16:41.460 --> 01:16:42.580 que le combat continue 01:16:42.580 --> 01:16:43.700 et il est loin d'être perdu 01:16:43.700 --> 01:16:44.520 et je pense même 01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:46.360 qu'il y a de fortes chances 01:16:46.360 --> 01:16:46.960 qu'il soit gagné 01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:47.300 parce que, 01:16:47.380 --> 01:16:47.780 à partir du moment 01:16:47.780 --> 01:16:48.520 où l'adversaire 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:50.240 n'a pas la possibilité 01:16:50.240 --> 01:16:51.600 de répondre à d'argument, 01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:52.700 c'est qu'il sait 01:16:52.700 --> 01:16:53.940 qu'il a perdu. 01:16:54.120 --> 01:16:54.800 Et quand l'adversaire 01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:55.460 sait qu'il a perdu, 01:16:55.660 --> 01:16:56.440 il est perdu. 01:16:57.400 --> 01:16:58.660 Mais, pour le moment, 01:16:58.820 --> 01:16:59.880 il a encore des micros, 01:17:00.020 --> 01:17:00.500 il a de l'argent, 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:02.220 il a des réseaux télévisions, 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:03.520 mais ça ne compte pas 01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:04.560 parce que c'est 01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:05.820 la vérité qui compte. 01:17:06.660 --> 01:17:08.060 Donc, je remercie 01:17:08.060 --> 01:17:09.320 le docteur 01:17:09.320 --> 01:17:10.560 Babouna 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:11.440 d'être venu 01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:12.080 de Turquie 01:17:12.080 --> 01:17:13.600 pour nous présenter 01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:15.040 un document 01:17:15.040 --> 01:17:15.280 d'ailleurs 01:17:15.280 --> 01:17:16.280 très très bien réalisé. 01:17:16.280 --> 01:17:16.840 Je me dis 01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:17.320 que je suis fourré 01:17:17.320 --> 01:17:18.720 que sur le plan 01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:20.220 de la forme, 01:17:20.940 --> 01:17:22.040 il y a du savoir-faire 01:17:22.040 --> 01:17:23.200 chez nos amis turcs. 01:17:24.080 --> 01:17:25.220 Et je remercie également 01:17:25.220 --> 01:17:26.340 Alissa Dunenguin 01:17:26.340 --> 01:17:28.080 que je n'aperçois plus. 01:17:28.080 --> 01:17:28.840 Ah oui, voilà, 01:17:29.040 --> 01:17:29.740 qui était 01:17:29.740 --> 01:17:30.440 à la canéra, 01:17:31.540 --> 01:17:32.280 qui nous a, 01:17:32.420 --> 01:17:33.400 dans un excellent français, 01:17:34.540 --> 01:17:35.040 fait part 01:17:35.040 --> 01:17:35.960 de la vision 01:17:35.960 --> 01:17:36.800 du monde 01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:37.460 de l'islam. 01:17:37.660 --> 01:17:38.300 Alors, je sais bien, 01:17:38.380 --> 01:17:38.640 bien sûr, 01:17:38.740 --> 01:17:39.160 que ici, 01:17:39.540 --> 01:17:40.400 cette vision du monde 01:17:40.400 --> 01:17:42.720 peut choquer 01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:43.780 ou ne peut pas être 01:17:43.780 --> 01:17:45.100 immédiatement partagée 01:17:45.100 --> 01:17:46.080 parce qu'il y a vraiment 01:17:46.080 --> 01:17:48.280 des différences fondamentales 01:17:48.280 --> 01:17:49.000 entre l'irvion. 01:17:49.160 --> 01:17:49.960 Parce que si on n'avait pas, 01:17:50.040 --> 01:17:50.580 ça se saurait 01:17:50.580 --> 01:17:51.240 depuis longtemps. 01:17:51.240 --> 01:17:52.740 quand même. 01:17:53.020 --> 01:17:53.820 Et on ne va pas 01:17:53.820 --> 01:17:55.160 en deux heures 01:17:55.160 --> 01:17:55.960 de conférences 01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:57.340 régler un différent 01:17:57.340 --> 01:17:58.740 qui dure depuis des siècles. 01:17:59.420 --> 01:18:00.640 Mais l'important, 01:18:01.060 --> 01:18:02.700 c'était de vous montrer 01:18:02.700 --> 01:18:04.320 qu'au-delà 01:18:04.320 --> 01:18:05.140 de ces différents, 01:18:05.280 --> 01:18:05.980 de ces barrières 01:18:05.980 --> 01:18:06.820 entre les personnes, 01:18:07.420 --> 01:18:08.640 il y a partout 01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:09.760 ce qu'on appelle 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:10.320 dans l'Évangile 01:18:10.320 --> 01:18:11.520 les gens de bonne volonté. 01:18:12.320 --> 01:18:13.360 Et il est dit 01:18:13.360 --> 01:18:14.400 paix aux hommes 01:18:14.400 --> 01:18:15.080 de bonne volonté. 01:18:15.480 --> 01:18:16.240 Et on ne le dit pas 01:18:16.240 --> 01:18:17.000 aux hommes de volonté 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:17.800 de votre camp. 01:18:18.160 --> 01:18:18.800 Non, il est dit 01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:19.300 paix aux hommes 01:18:19.300 --> 01:18:19.780 de bonne volonté. 01:18:19.780 --> 01:18:20.800 Donc ce qui est, 01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:22.440 ce que je voudrais signaler, 01:18:22.540 --> 01:18:23.420 c'est la possibilité 01:18:23.420 --> 01:18:24.000 effectivement, 01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:25.200 dans des camps 01:18:25.200 --> 01:18:26.140 aussi différents 01:18:26.140 --> 01:18:27.760 que le camp chrétien, 01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:28.300 si on veut dire, 01:18:28.440 --> 01:18:29.220 le camp musulman, 01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:30.140 de constater 01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:31.080 qu'il est possible 01:18:31.080 --> 01:18:33.060 de parler paisiblement, 01:18:33.440 --> 01:18:34.100 de répondre 01:18:34.100 --> 01:18:35.160 aux questions 01:18:35.160 --> 01:18:37.540 et sur un grand nombre 01:18:37.540 --> 01:18:37.900 de points 01:18:37.900 --> 01:18:38.620 de constater 01:18:38.620 --> 01:18:39.480 des convergences 01:18:39.480 --> 01:18:40.900 quand même significatives 01:18:40.900 --> 01:18:42.100 et qui peut-être 01:18:42.100 --> 01:18:42.880 ouvrent la voie 01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:43.640 des collaborations 01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:44.720 effectives 01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:45.280 pour des, 01:18:45.500 --> 01:18:46.060 je pense que 01:18:46.060 --> 01:18:47.160 des opérations 01:18:47.160 --> 01:18:49.160 de déstabilisation 01:18:49.160 --> 01:18:49.760 aux professeurs 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:50.300 de lycée 01:18:50.300 --> 01:18:51.120 peuvent être 01:18:51.120 --> 01:18:52.020 parfaitement menées 01:18:52.020 --> 01:18:52.700 de concert 01:18:52.700 --> 01:18:53.540 par des chrétiens 01:18:53.540 --> 01:18:53.980 motivés 01:18:53.980 --> 01:18:54.580 et des musulmans 01:18:54.580 --> 01:18:55.060 motivés. 01:18:55.240 --> 01:18:55.380 Enfin, 01:18:55.540 --> 01:18:56.220 des stabilisations 01:18:56.220 --> 01:18:56.980 dans le France. 01:18:57.980 --> 01:18:58.580 Donc, 01:18:58.720 --> 01:18:59.460 merci encore 01:18:59.460 --> 01:19:00.140 à nos amis 01:19:00.140 --> 01:19:01.280 d'Urti. 01:19:01.280 --> 01:19:15.800 Nous avons une pause 01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:18.300 que nous allons essayer 01:19:18.300 --> 01:19:18.760 de réduire 01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:19.280 à 20 minutes.